It takes a nation to protect the nation
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Desecrated Western women, forgotten in order to protect Islam/illegalsThe characteristics of this category is of a young woman that is murdered or desecrated by a Muslim or illegal immigrant, but the death is… Started by Alan Lake |
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Burqa Deceit and Abuse - collected articlesThis discussion looks at the problems for society, raised by the Burqa. The privilege of the Burqa is often abused by Muslim men to escape… Started by Alan Lake |
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May 21, 2022 Reply by Antony |
Jordan: Saudi men raping refugee women and childrenAs so many Islamic apologists will tell you, Islam totally respects women, they are equal! Started by Alan Lake |
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Polygamy Leads to Higher Levels of Crime, Violence, Poverty, and Gender InequalityNew Study Shows Polygamy Leads to Higher Levels of Crime, Violence, Poverty, and Gender Inequality http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/03/… Started by Netcon |
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Halal and Polygamy: whose culture do we want?http://www.christianconcern.com/blog/halal-and-polygamy-whose-culture-do-we-want Published: November 24th, 2010 How far are we willing to… Started by Alan Lake |
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Burqa Deceit and Abuse (2006)Afghan suicide bombers hides under burqa: Five Afghan soldiers were killed and four wounded when asuicide bomber, whom the police think w… Started by Alan Lake |
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Burqa Deceit and Abuse (2007)Philadelphia bank: The report in the Philadelphia Inquirer is not explicit, so it's not clear if a niqab is involved, but one suspects so,… Started by Alan Lake |
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Burqa Deceit and Abuse (2008)Wal-Mart not worried: Under pressure from CAIR's Nevada chapter, the world's largest retailer apologized to Muslim woman who claimed to hav… Started by Alan Lake |
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Women are deficient in mind and religion{Originally posted by Shiva on 4May10 in UK Room} Mohamed speaks of women as man’s supreme calamity, and suspects that most of them will… Started by Alan Lake |
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Welcome to 4 Freedoms!
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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