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Women Victims of Kuffarphobia

To protect women and society from abuse which is ideologically authorised, i.e. Honor Killings, Forced Marriage, Bigamy, Legal Sub-status, and Face Covering

The idea of the inferiority of, and need to suppress women, is bound up in the Islamic concept of Purdah.

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Comment by Indoeuropean on September 12, 2011 at 6:44

Up to now the only one who abrogated Stoning is so called Jesus-Christ, whose Existance has been questioned by, for instance, Acharya S, Dr. Murdock:


About female Circumcision, female genital Mutliation, it is utterly important to abolish any kind of genital Mutilation and Circumcision [if we are honest about the Sickness of mutilating Children's Genitalias], in order to solve the Problem.


Still suggesting the Works by Alice Miller and [Wilhelm Reich ->] Alexander Lowen, Scientists and Psychologists, about the Impact of parental (good/bad) - energetical and practical - Behaviour on Children [<- which are the Future of our human Society, the future Adults of our World, Earth globe].


Genius Albert Einstein questioned his Childhood Education and said it was the main Problem toward Learning (and scientific Findings).


Loveliest Regards.

Comment by Albert Case on September 12, 2011 at 2:45
Comment by Albert Case on September 5, 2011 at 3:49

Fears Indonesian Female Circumcision Guidelines Could Increase Practice

Comment by Alan Lake on September 4, 2011 at 2:19
Comment by Albert Case on August 29, 2011 at 1:28
Comment by Albert Case on August 29, 2011 at 1:26

And this is not just a problem for Pakistan. In London, Pakistani muslim immigrants are doing the same thing, kidnapping and pimping out young white girls.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on August 25, 2011 at 8:41

Hard to pinpoint when it started Indo, but I think it definitely got worse in the 60's

I was sent some vintage images recently. 2 of the photos included Victorian girls. I found these tasteless and comparable to the young girls dressed up for beauty pageants that we see in today's newspapers. These weren't cute photos of kids dressing up, but kids who had been dressed up to look like adults.  Hard to say how many of these images were produced back then? It's the first time I've come across any offensive vintage images involving children. 

Television plays a large part in forcing children to grow up too fast. Cindy, Barbie dolls etc  The pushing of boundaries in the 60's

I don't know enough about Kinsey et al to know the influence they may have had. 

Comment by Indoeuropean on August 25, 2011 at 7:24

This is very interesting Heather: when did this Sexualisation start? Is that possible to expose this starting Point? And possibly even expose the Shadow (...) that brought to such way of - so to say - Thinking?

[For instance, if this started with PEDOPHILE Kinsey and his Collaborators/Friends, this was the Sixties, and one should analize which Society/Parenthood/Context the same Pedophile comes from: one should analize the (mental) Condition/Health of his Parents/Forefathers/Foremothers, which stricly depends on their Life Conditions, and see if we can expose their Illness and eventually see if we can avoid this same Illness to infect other Members of our (Western/European) human Race, and/or other Members of the masculine Gender and of the feminine one.

According to what I observed here, where I live, Leftiests come from rightist Families, and the latters were living during War Times, and concretely had a very hard Life, therefore they had no Time, Energy or even Capabilities to take properly Care of their own Offsprings; the formers, (practically) abandoned, or frustraded, or submitted Children, once they (came over their Childhood and saw the End of World War II), decided to create some more brilliant and more free Future (for themselves), and repudiate the Culture and the social Environement they (and their Parents) came from.

Fact is though, that these Youngs internalized the Ban to criticize the very Root of their Suffering (which is/was their own Parents - concrete Beings - and their Behaviour), and they tried destroy the Plant that made them suffer so much (the Culture and social Environment). This Lack of very accurately addressed Criticism made so, that the Reality they gave Form to resulted so sick as the former Reality.

This can be seen in the leftist Praising of III. World's Realities, where Gender or social Discriminations is the Rule, and Kids get regularly abused: they praise the Form (foreign Countries, foreign People, Diversity, ...), but they miss to criticize the Essence, which is UNIVERSAL HUMAN BEHAVIOUR. And human Behaviour, the one we personally experience, is fist of all that of one's Parents, then that or our Family Members, and eventually that of our cultural/social Environment. Not the other way 'round.


Comment by Heather Gilbert on August 24, 2011 at 9:15

Free thinking and free thinkers?  More like thorougly brainwashed sheep Indo.

You are right about the moral decline of the West. The sexualization of our children should be deeply worrying people. Instead, we somehow equate pornography with freedom, ignoring the damage it does to our society.

"People demand freedom of speech to make up for the
freedom of thought which they avoid"
-- Soren Kierkegaard
Comment by Indoeuropean on August 24, 2011 at 6:43

Since Antony posted a Link recalling Feminists (Feminism), I'd like to add something about the main Theme(s) approached in this Room, and them, in conjunction with Heather's latest Post and mine.


Here we talk about/against genital Mutilation(s) [that becomes SEXIST when it is a Fight against FEMALE genital Mutilation and NOT against MALE genital Mutilation as well], and about (Araboislamic) Pedophilia [underage Marriages of little young Girls with far old (or simply old) Men], and about (its) Gender DISequality [or Gender Apartheid], and/but the Question is:


what have we, what has the West, and Europe, to offer INSTEAD of those (sick, unsane, globally unhealthy) Behaviours? Unfortunately nothing really better ->


once we talked on this Forum about Pornography, and Psychologist Dr. Phyllis Chesler already published several Articles citing "the Pornification of Society". I was recently reading a Book by Psychologist Dr. Willy Pasini about (nowadays) "Extimacy" [which exposed nowadays Attitude in showing off anything which is (was) intimate, and notably right in/through the Medias], and I'm now reading what did Psychologist Dr. Alexander Lowen observed about "the Construction of Charachter", [not to mention the Undercovering of scandalous sexual Abuses within the ... catholic Church, which is most of the times associated with the West/Europe, and its (very, classical) Culture]:


well, appearently ... Western/European (today's) Ethics/Morality has (too) little to offer, and the West/Europe has Nothing to teach to Others. I'm notably talking about (today's) PORNOGRAPHY, appearently supported by a certain Wing of Feminists (Feminism).


This "very (un)civilized Industry" is appearently succesfully growing, and it does encourage all of that we (the West/Europe) are supposed to fight against [when it belongs to "other (Sub)cultures, and (In)civilizations]: sexual (genital) Mistreatement, (from light to extreme) Pedophilia, and the Misrepresentation of Women (the Feminine) and Men (the Masculine), which drives to (severe) Misunderstanding(s) between the two (Genders) [that, willingly or not, are still responsible for human Reproduction, which are potential Parents meant to be responsible for (their) Kids and for (their) Education].




since we (our Society) appears to be so ... sick, insane, unhealthy, so (blatantly <- watch the Medias) focused on the Belly [which is tied to most bestial Needs/Behavious, while Chest and Head dominate other (more human) Needs/Behavious]?


Most probably free Thinking and free Thinkers is the only good Point about the West/Europe, which mainly includes CRITICAL THINKING THAT HAS TO BE APPLIED to other (Sub)cultures and (In)civilizations, and TO OURSELVES (the West/Europe) as well,


no matter which ... Wing, Gender, social Class, Ethnicity/Race, ... one belongs to, or which Belief, Education, ... one comes from.


Loveliest Regards and have a beautiful Life, to everyone :-)


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