Fightback by Blacklist Discussions - The 4 Freedoms Library2024-03-29T02:07:38Zhttp://4freedoms.com/group/blacklist/forum?feed=yes&xn_auth=noBlacklist: Abdul Haque at the UK Shoreditch Mosquetag:4freedoms.com,2012-09-19:3766518:Topic:1119092012-09-19T13:20:12.846ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span>A </span><a href="http://www.iengage.org.uk/news/comment/2072-sunday-times-front-page-story-on-islamic-child-brides">recent undercover investigation by the Sunday Times</a><span> found imams in Britain willing to “marry” young girls, provided this was carried out in secret. The imams had been approached by an undercover reporter posing as a father who said he wanted his 12 year old daughter married, to prevent her from being tempted in to a "western…</span></p>
<p><span>A </span><a href="http://www.iengage.org.uk/news/comment/2072-sunday-times-front-page-story-on-islamic-child-brides">recent undercover investigation by the Sunday Times</a><span> found imams in Britain willing to “marry” young girls, provided this was carried out in secret. The imams had been approached by an undercover reporter posing as a father who said he wanted his 12 year old daughter married, to prevent her from being tempted in to a "western lifestyle".</span></p>
<p><strong>Abdul Haque, who officiates at weddings at the Shoreditch mosque</strong>, east London agreed to carry out the formalities of the wedding. However, he told the reporter that he should “tell people it is an engagement but it will be a marriage”. He added: “In Islam, once the girl reaches puberty the father has the right, the parents have the right, but under the laws of this country if the girl complains and says her marriage has been arranged and she wasn’t of marriageable age, then the person who performed the marriage will be jailed as well as the mother and father”.</p> Blacklist: Imam Mohammed Kassamali, of the Husaini Islamic Centre in Peterborough, UKtag:4freedoms.com,2012-09-19:3766518:Topic:1122042012-09-19T13:17:53.839ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><span>A </span><a href="http://www.iengage.org.uk/news/comment/2072-sunday-times-front-page-story-on-islamic-child-brides">recent undercover investigation by the Sunday Times</a><span> found imams in Britain willing to “marry” young girls, provided this was carried out in secret. The imams had been approached by an undercover reporter posing as a father who said he wanted his 12 year old daughter married, to prevent her from being tempted in to a "western lifestyle".…</span></p>
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<p><span>A </span><a href="http://www.iengage.org.uk/news/comment/2072-sunday-times-front-page-story-on-islamic-child-brides">recent undercover investigation by the Sunday Times</a><span> found imams in Britain willing to “marry” young girls, provided this was carried out in secret. The imams had been approached by an undercover reporter posing as a father who said he wanted his 12 year old daughter married, to prevent her from being tempted in to a "western lifestyle".</span></p>
<p><span id=""><strong>Imam Mohammed Kassamali, of the Husaini Islamic Centre in Peterborough</strong>, sanctioned the marriage, but stressed the need for total secrecy. He stated: “I would love the girl to go to her husband’s houses (sic) as soon as possible, the younger the better. Under sharia (Islamic law) there is no problem. It is said she should see her first sign of puberty at the house of her husband. The problem is that we cannot explain such things (the marriage) if the girl went tomorrow (to the authorities).”</span></p> Blacklist: Aaqil Ahmed, BBC Head of Religion and Ethicstag:4freedoms.com,2012-09-14:3766518:Topic:1118282012-09-14T11:37:01.101ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p>For explanation and justification, see the discussions below.</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/uk-aaqil-ahmed-bbc-head-of-religion-completes-the-subversion-of-t">http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/uk-aaqil-ahmed-bbc-head-of-religion-completes-the-subversion-of-t…</a></p>
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<p>For explanation and justification, see the discussions below.</p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/uk-aaqil-ahmed-bbc-head-of-religion-completes-the-subversion-of-t">http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/uk-aaqil-ahmed-bbc-head-of-religion-completes-the-subversion-of-t</a></p>
<p><a href="http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/freespeech/forum/topics/uk-muslim-nazis-win-again-channel-4-cancels-islam-documentary-scr?xg_source=activity">http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/freespeech/forum/topics/uk-muslim-nazis-win-again-channel-4-cancels-islam-documentary-scr?xg_source=activity</a></p> Blacklist: Prof. Nigel Copsey - Shoddy Researchtag:4freedoms.com,2012-08-09:3766518:Topic:1098282012-08-09T23:29:43.412ZAlan Lakehttp://4freedoms.com/profile/AlanLake
<p><a href="http://faith-matters.org/images/stories/fm-reports/english-defense-league-report.pdf">http://faith-matters.org/images/stories/fm-reports/english-defense-league-report.pdf</a></p>
<p>This academic apparently took money from Faith Matters (an alleged "inter-faith" organisation), in payment for writing a report on the EDL.</p>
<p>Copsey is a professor of history at Teeside University. His report was written in 6 weeks. He admits this on page 6 (where he describes his "methodology" in…</p>
<p><a href="http://faith-matters.org/images/stories/fm-reports/english-defense-league-report.pdf">http://faith-matters.org/images/stories/fm-reports/english-defense-league-report.pdf</a></p>
<p>This academic apparently took money from Faith Matters (an alleged "inter-faith" organisation), in payment for writing a report on the EDL.</p>
<p>Copsey is a professor of history at Teeside University. His report was written in 6 weeks. He admits this on page 6 (where he describes his "methodology" in 3 1/2 lines -- I've seen longer methodologies for making an omelette).</p>
<p>He says the entire report was based on 6 weeks of internet surfing, reading newspaper articles, and consulting some "secondary material". Yet all of that is secondary material! Primary material would be to interview people in a movement, to observe their meetings and demonstrations. He has no idea of the veracity or accuracy of anything posted by random and pseudonymous members of the public in a forum or on Facebook.</p>
<p>He says that because of "limited time" he could not conduct any interviews. Then why sign your name to such a report? What was the hurry? Did they not pay him enough to do a longer study? </p>
<p>Even from a cursory glance at the report, I can see many falsehoods; falsehoods that appear because Prof. Copsey did not bother to verify any of the information in the study by interviewing people involved. What kind of historian simply rehashes newspaper articles full of falsehoods, and relies on internet gossip? </p>
<p>Only a biased and politicised historian would attach his name to a report that he recognised was based entirely on unsubstantiated and/or biased sources, when a scholarly work could be done by taking the appropriate amount of time to investigate things first hand.</p>
<p>I do not believe that Copsey would have accepted such a report from as a 3rd year dissertation. He does not deserve to teach history or academic methods to students. You can be sure of one thing - future historians will not be referring to this work by Copsey as an example of how contemporary history should be written.</p>