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Joe replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group Kuffarphobia in UK
"I don't think the EDL are over. This is an extraordinary achievement. This video, by EDL, is of broadcast quality. They may not be having many demos or getting many people at them. But this is a level of sophistication we never saw from them…"
Jul 14, 2016
Kinana replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group Kuffarphobia in UK
"https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jul/02/anti-racist-groups-brexit-hate-crime In this article the EDL is also described as merely 'anti-Muslim' ; a step up from racist or far right or fascist!"
Jul 3, 2016
Arthur replied to Aeneas Lavinium's discussion 'Battle of Tours 732 AD - something uplifting' in the group UK Room
"That was very interesting, thanks. Arthur."
Oct 22, 2014
Arthur liked Kinana's discussion Birmingham – Here We Come!
Oct 4, 2014
Arthur replied to Kinana's discussion 'Thoughts on the Slough EDL demo' in the group UK Room
"Yes, a great shame that she can't be our spokes person? Arthur."
Feb 27, 2014
Arthur replied to Joe's discussion 'EDL: Reminding the Hypocritcal, Cowardly Leftist Elite of their Principles' in the group UK Room
"Thanks Alan, there is so much here that I'm always giving links too, so nice to know that. Arthur."
Feb 16, 2014
Kinana replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"Slough has come and gone.  The EDL is re-building its base and has a solid core of supporters.  We will continue to be on the streets, making the ONLY free speech zone in the public square and highlighting the threat from the…"
Feb 6, 2014
Arthur replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"In emails to Caroll released under the Freedom of Information Act, Nawaz wrote that "Quilliam has managed to facilitate the defection of the founder and leader of the EDL, Tommy Robinson (real name Stephen Yaxley), and his right-hand man and…"
Feb 5, 2014
Kinana replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"The demo in Slough will be a test for the EDL.  The more extreme other 'patriot' groupings become the more alienating they will be to the wider public and hence more likely to not succeed in their goal of getting the resources of the…"
Jan 23, 2014
Kinana replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
""As, or if, economic prosperity gathers apace, most voters drawn to the "far right" will probably prefer the 'respectable' image of UKIP to that of a tattooed thug.' The experts speak yet again.  This view…"
Dec 29, 2013
Joe replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"The media NEVER make any comparison with the hate crimes by muslims.  We kuffar in Britain have a very long way to go before we match: the butchering of Kris Donald the murder of Ross Parker the organised rape/prostitution of 10000 white…"
Dec 29, 2013
Antony replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
""Surge in hate crimes against muslims" ; http://rt.com/news/muslim-uk-crime-rise-906/"
Dec 29, 2013
Alan Lake replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"Exactly!  We all knew from the beginning that the 7/7 bombings, Lee Rigby's execution, the 4 times over-representation of Muslims in crime, the 10,000 English school girls groomed by Muslim gangs - were all a perfectly natural response by…"
Dec 29, 2013
Alan Lake replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"For the argument "let me explain the meaning of this English Quran to you (from my lofty knowledge)", here is the statement and response."
Oct 31, 2013
paul collings replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"  Well i don't think HG is going to be jumping up and 'taking control' of the EDL. Shes not been unifying force for good has she.  And no matter what talk is going around, no one is going to jump up and take over…"
Oct 29, 2013
Antony replied to Arthur's discussion 'Is this the end of EDL' in the group UK Room
"I have no knowledge of the inner workings of the EDL, and did not screenshot the original piece on the Casuals site - but yes. HG's name did come up in unflattering terms."
Oct 29, 2013

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At 16:11 on June 7, 2013, Kinana said…

Arthur, welcome back!

 
 
 

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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