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"Hi Camille, welcome to 4F :-) There are a lot of interesting and well formed views on your blog.  I didn't know about the Government funding of charities for example, indeed that: That would almost merit an additional restriction added to…"
Jul 18, 2015

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At 14:18 on July 18, 2015, Alan Lake said…

Hi Camille,

welcome to 4F :-)

There are a lot of interesting and well formed views on your blog.  I didn't know about the Government funding of charities for example, indeed that:

In the last fifteen years, state funding of charities in Britain has increased significantly while restrictions on political lobbying by charities have been relaxed. 27,000 charities are now dependent on the government for more than 75 per cent of their income and the ‘voluntary sector’ receives more money from the state than it receives in voluntary donations

That would almost merit an additional restriction added to the 4 Freedoms to make pork barrel politics illegal, i.e.: that the Government cannot use government money and powers to privately promote and apply its own policies.

In regard to your April 1st article: "It is not the place of corporate business to intefere in democracy", I think there is another key argument from symmetry/equity to be made.  In that article you point out that Paypal shut down the account of Britain First, and that the Post Office unlawfully delayed the delivery of their election leaflets.

This is discrimination against a legal customer.  If that customer was Gay and desired a cake to be made, or sought lodging in someone's home being used as a bread and breakfast, you can be sure the state prosecutor would have been after them like a hound after a fox, for discriminating between its customers on inapplicable grounds.  

I'm not arguing against the Gay issue here.  I'm using the same argument Geert Wilders uses for the Quran v. Mein Kampf in Holland: if you are going to ban Mein Kampf, then surely to be CONSISTENT you must also ban the Quran.  He actually doesn't mind what you ban, he just wants consistency in banning.

In the same way, there is no justification in denying fair treatment to customers from Britain First because of a political issue, in the same way that Gay people cannot be denied fair treatment because of a political issue.  Unless the lefturds are going to say that being Gay is not a political issue?  The mind boggles with these fascist slime.

Anyway, I hope you find this site useful when you need to gather evidence on any issue.  AFAIK, we are the only place trying to make some kind of categorical store of news and concepts, so that related content can be retrieved by intelligent human drill down (as opposed to by dumb machine searching on keyword tags).


At 13:07 on July 17, 2015, Kinana said…

I only managed a brief look at your squarespace website but it looks great!  I look forward to your contributions here.

At 13:41 on July 16, 2015, Kinana said…

Camille, to help you understand and get around this site you might want to check out this page:

At 15:47 on July 15, 2015, Kinana said…

Camille, welcome to 4Freedoms.


Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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