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Joe replied to Derius's discussion 'Multiculturalism, Islam and Child Sex Slavery' in the group UK Room
"I have heard there is a 2nd editioin of this book coming out, an expanded print edition which will be available through Amazon."
Jul 20, 2014
Kinana replied to Derius's discussion 'Multiculturalism, Islam and Child Sex Slavery' in the group UK Room
Jul 16, 2014
Derius added a discussion to the group UK Room

Multiculturalism, Islam and Child Sex Slavery

Hello All,Given that I've been on the Counter Jihad scene for a while now, very little seems to shock me any more. But occasionally, a report or press release still manages to, and this is one such report: has to be the most comprehensive research done on the subject of Islamic grooming gangs in…See More
Jul 15, 2014
Alan Lake replied to Derius's discussion 'Tories still backing Adebolajo's UAF - Cameron too weak to get his name removed' in the group UK Room
Jun 28, 2013
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Jun 28, 2013
Kinana replied to Derius's discussion 'UAF had Woolwich Murder Suspect as a Speaker at one of their Demonstrations' in the group UK Room
"Lee Rigby could only be identified by dental records.  This reminds me of this story from Ibn Ishaq (387): ‘After the battle of Uhud: Mohammed found the body of his uncle terribly mutilated by a woman whose father, brother, uncle, and…"
Jun 8, 2013
Derius replied to Joe's discussion 'Britain's First Islamist MP? (clothing courtesy of Afghanistan)' in the group UK Room
"I recognise the Muslim with the shaven head in the fourth photo down,. He is Mohammed Shafiq, chairman of the Ramadan Foundation, which is a supposed "moderate" Muslim youth group. The fact that he is happily supporting Galloway, a paid…"
Apr 4, 2012
Antony replied to Derius's discussion 'Another Paedophile Ring busted' in the group UK Room
"A quick heads up - not sure which gangs they are talking about, but Channel 4 news tomorrow (Wed) night will have a report on how gangs sexually exploit girls."
Mar 27, 2012
Derius replied to Steve Charls's discussion 'Can We Talk About This' in the group UK Room
""it does nothing to enlighten us about the daily, non-violent practice of faith" ...while the Guardian does nothing to enlighten us about the daily violent practice of the faith by jihadist groups worldwide."
Mar 13, 2012
Derius replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'The landscape is changing: Muslim Paedophile Grooming, BNP and EDL' in the group UK Room
"Joe, Why don't you go to the British Freedom Party meeting on Saturday in London? You would give some good input into policy formation - and unlike most other parties, they would listen to you. I'm going, and it looks like Kinana is too,…"
Mar 1, 2012
Derius replied to Joe's discussion 'British Collaborators in International Jihad' in the group UK Room
""The Koran states that before they go off to conduct their violent jihad, they must get the permission of their parents." Joe - do you have a verse reference for this? I've not come across this interpretation before. My understanding…"
Jan 24, 2012
Derius replied to Joe's discussion 'Islamists Threaten Humanists at Queen Mary, University of London (Correction: Muslims NOT Islamists)' in the group UK Room
"Well, look on the bright side. Mr Angry from the Islamic Community probably gave the audience a better understanding of Human Rights under Islam that they would have done by listening to the scheduled speeches. He demonstrated most brilliantly that…"
Jan 18, 2012
Derius added a discussion to the group UK Room

EDL Members get arrested for being attacked by Muslims

Here’s a good example of how biased the MSM is these days. First of all, I draw your attention to this article here: When talking about the EDL, the article says this: “Later 44 people on a coach were arrested on suspicion of violent disorder, Scotland Yard said.” These 44 people are included in the 60 total of EDL members who…See More
Sep 4, 2011
Derius added a discussion to the group UK Room

Free Speech or Incitement to Riot?

Here is an interesting one on which I would be interested to hear the views of some other posters here. The article linked to below details three people being convicted of looting. The two cultural enrichers detailed are clearly guilty of theft, but the third girl did not do any rioting/looting, but merely posted "Who's up for it" on facebook. There is no evidence that anybody actually did do any looting on the back of what she said. Should she be prosecuted or not? She's definitely guilty of…See More
Aug 13, 2011
Derius added a discussion to the group UK Room

MPs on their Summer Holidays

Have any of you ever wondered what some of our MP's do on their long summer break? Well, now we know the answer. They go over to Gaza to meet and have their photo taken with terrorists: …See More
Aug 6, 2011
Derius added a discussion to the group UK Room

The Left Show Their True Colours Again

Within 24 hours of the atrocity in Norway, while normal people are still in grief, the Left are already already busy trying to spin events to their advantage. Here we have Harry's Place trying to link the murderer with the EDL: …See More
Jul 23, 2011

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At 14:11 on October 12, 2009, Kinana said…
Derius, you made it! welcome

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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