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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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At 4:20 on March 4, 2010, Eliza L Or said…
Jay, its *absent* Eliza...please add me......:o)
At 0:48 on January 25, 2010, Netcon said…
You don't have to make your own network, you can make your own room here, called "Jay's Room" or something and have it public or private.

There are already so many counter-jihad website, blogs and movements out there that its become counter-productive; its almost a displacement reaction to facing the real challenges.
At 0:14 on January 24, 2010, Jay said…
I don't visit here too often, but once we get enough friends here, I will visit regularly. We can make our own network on Ning like this one. We just need more members.
At 23:11 on January 22, 2010, kim Israela said…
Hi Jay, finally you add me here, thanks.
At 8:14 on January 22, 2010, Heather Gilbert said…
Hi Jay. Good to see you here.
At 22:47 on September 26, 2009, Jay said…
Hello Netcon,
Thanks for your comment. I have been posting articles and Notes since a long time, but just started my blog 2 weeks ago. I have a lot of articles posted on FaceBook and I am very active there. If you are a member there please let me know I would love to have you in my contacts on FB.
At 0:01 on September 26, 2009, Netcon said…
Hello Jay,
welcome to 4F! Your blog is a mine of amazing and powerful information. I will go thru it as I get chance, to catch up.
At 13:53 on September 25, 2009, Charles Martel said…
Hey Jay. I see you havn't joined the USA room. Im picking up on who is not active and i am trying my best to encourage activity within the rooms.

Charles Martel

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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