It is defeatist, you have to focus on the positive in humanity while defending yourself from the evil. If you are not prepared to die for your children then you might as well commit suicide, but like…"
"The immigrants were supposed to work to pay for our future pensions and welfare, and eventually their own. Instead they are on welfare right now and will remain so.
Just another daft socialist idea, like integration and them becoming like us.
"Islam is not just going to go away, the war will continue in our cities. Just saw a program about Howard Carter and Tutankharmen. Priceless treasures and historical knowledge that would not have been discovered by Muslims, and which will be sold or…"
"Like when they argue that we need immigration, without it the economy and culture would naturally adjust to say a dwindling population. Without slavery America would have developed by other means. I would rather have a slghtly smaller pension and…"
"Thomas Jefferson a timid but wise man wanted included in the Constitution that slavery be abolished. He understood however, a slave owner himself, that as the owners were outnumbered the slaves would likely rise up and revenge themselves. Therefore…"
"You can understand Muslims, refugees and immigrants wanting to let more of their own kind in, that is only natural they have no respect for the natives and we all act ultimately in self-interest- unless we are barmy. Which is what the liberal…"
"Many white people are overly friendly and self-denying when they meet a Muslim or black person, this is a form of inverse racism as they behave normally in relations with other whites. I call it a "I am not a racist" syndrome. The media…"
Philip, I agree - EU madness must end- we have to make a stand , but we one big obstacle,
PC press and radio/tv. As long as the reporting is as biased as it is currently people will not kow about the damage beig done to EU and in my case , Sweden. This country is just full of " soft cheeses" as we say, IE. brainwashed people. I am ashamed nowdays to admit that I am swedish. think I will leave Sweden soon had enough of this stinking "paradise"!
Thanks Philip. You are right, this is about survival. I, like many others get burnout from time to time. Stupid liberals keep crawling out of the woodwork and are more of a hindrance than the moslems. There will be backlash to all of this. All these idiots offering a home to moslem migrants are really inviting trouble. If only we could get some right minded leaders in power.
I cannot help but believe that we are generally safer with our own kind. Oddly enough lately I have found myself defending Christians in some of my writing due to the fact that compared with other superstitions they are the lesser of the evils, and that is only due to the fact that they were diminished in power and influence during The Enlightenment.
I just realised that there is a button marked "View thread" which sticks both parts of the discussion together from both my wall and yours. So I can use that in future and post in the expected place :-)
A funny thing about Christians...So very many of them admire Ayn Rand and yet she was a hard core atheist and told us that selfishness is a virtue. The big difference between Atlas Shrugged and the Bible is that Atlas Shrugged was written to liberate with reason. The Bible was written to maintain ignorance and to rule the flock.
Philip, you speak of your art...do you do cartoons?
I have one in mind that I am incapable of rendering. I envision a woman coming through a door, torn dress, hair disheveled, black eye, sign flashing 'Malmo' in the background. She is saying 'Raped again! That is the third time this month!"
Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
The 4 Freedoms
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 1. SP Freedom of Speech Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms 2. SP Freedom of Election Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms 3. SP Freedom of Movement The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration) 4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"