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Richard Londonbourne commented on Alan Lake's event 'Pegida UK: Silent walk'
"Rally at Birmingham International, not New Street, I think. Check it out."
Jan 30, 2016
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Danny Jeffrey [Content Advisory]

This room is for the collected articles of Danny Jeffrey.This room contains some shocking material, so do not direct your children to this room for their education. By entering this room, you agree to be exposed to uncensored content.See More
Sep 4, 2012
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Aug 14, 2011
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Relaxation Room

Need a break?  Then settle into one of our comfy chairs and enjoy this week's movie.  Or, watch other great content or follow a nature trek from the wall. Or pass tips onto other members of handy software tools and so on.See More
Feb 23, 2011
Richard Londonbourne replied to Kinana's discussion 'Sharia Law Violates Your Rights and Freedoms' in the group UK Room
"My thanks for expressions of solidarity from those who have responded! Every successful demonstration needs a target but I am very clear that I am not targetting Muslims - indeed, I am not seeking to engage them at any level. The 'enemy'…"
Sep 9, 2010
Richard Londonbourne commented on adrian panthers's blog post 'How to humiliate the Guardian newspaper?'
"Annoying as this is, I would be inclined to leave the Guardian alone and press on with the work in hand. Dont waste time getting involved in 'punch ups' with the media. If Robert Spencer and Pam Geller are aware of this article they should…"
Aug 30, 2010
Richard Londonbourne added a discussion to the group UK Room

Magnus Nielsen UKIP PPC for Kilburn and Hampstead

On Tuesday 20th April, Magnus Nielsen, prospective Parliamentary Candidate for the UK Independence Party will be speaking on a panel with fellow candidates at West Hampstead Library, West End Lane, NW6 from 7pm.Your support would be welcome.See More
Apr 5, 2010
Alan Lake replied to Richard Londonbourne's discussion 'Harriet Harman's Equalities Bill - a danger to free speech?' in the group UK Room
"One thing thats confusing is the word 'fictional'. Whats fictional about it? I exist materially and in law don't I? I understand the point about common law rights and civil law now, but don't get this "fictional…"
Feb 5, 2010
Alan Lake replied to Richard Londonbourne's discussion 'Harriet Harman's Equalities Bill - a danger to free speech?' in the group UK Room
"The video is good. It demonstrates a strange new concept for some of us, but one well worth absorbing. Is there another way of stating "fictional legal person"? For the average person, we ARE the person on the birth certificate so its…"
Feb 5, 2010
peterpedant replied to Richard Londonbourne's discussion 'Harriet Harman's Equalities Bill - a danger to free speech?' in the group UK Room
"Common law applies to you as a Human being whereas statute/civil law (admiralty law - ie ones the government make up) apply to your fictional legal person. The one on your birth certificate. Provided you have not acted in violation of common law…"
Feb 5, 2010
Michael replied to Richard Londonbourne's discussion 'Harriet Harman's Equalities Bill - a danger to free speech?' in the group UK Room
"Clarify the phrase common law jurisdiction please, and please give an example if common law jurisdiction works, so I understand something."
Feb 5, 2010
Richard Londonbourne replied to shiva's discussion 'Mentally Sick' in the group UK Room
"At the time of his arrest, Akhmal Shaikh was in possession of enough heroin to kill 20,000 people. That is over six times the number of people who died in the World Trade Center on 9/11. Should be be surprised that the Chinese government acted as…"
Dec 29, 2009
Richard Londonbourne replied to Saif uddin's discussion 'The Islamification debate has passed without incident - now where are all the cynics now??' in the group UK Room
"Thanks for this. I take your point, John. But the MDI would argue that Britain is not 'Islamified' until we have all been converted to Islam and implement the Sharia Law."
Dec 24, 2009
Richard Londonbourne added a discussion to the group Argument & Oratory

'Muslim scholars and students have turned against Darwin, scientists are warned' The Times 17 Nov 2009 p20.

A thorough appreciation of the ideas of Darwin is the basis for understanding the fundamental principles of modern Western medical science. Will patients now be allowed to quiz their doctors on their ideas about the Origin of the Species? Will it be possible for patients, without risking the consequences of being stigmatised as 'racist' or 'Islamophobe' , to refuse treatment from a doctor who refuses to acknowledge Darwinism?
Nov 17, 2009
Richard Londonbourne added a discussion to the group EDL Supporters Room

EDL 'Fatwas' Any comments?

Death threats for journalists covering far right demosTough and urgent action is needed in response to violence, intimidation and death threats targeting journalists covering far right demonstrations.The call by NUJ General Secretary Jeremy Dear comes in the wake of specific email threats against photojournalist and investigative reporter Marc Vallée, and video journalist Jason N. Parkinson.The emails follow verbal threats and intimidation aimed at photographers covering a march by the English…See More
Nov 10, 2009
Richard Londonbourne joined Netcon's group

Theology Room

For discussion of 4 Freedoms issues in theology - Christian, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, etc.See More
Nov 4, 2009

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Islam or Christianity: Which one provides a comprehensive solution for British society? 16th Oct 2009

Posted on October 17, 2009 at 10:48 3 Comments

‘Islam or Christianity: which one provides a comprehensive solution for British society?’

About sixty people assembled in the auditorium of the East London Tabernacle, Mile End on Friday evening (16th October) to listen to this debate between Cllr Alan Craig and Adnam Rashid of the Hittin Institute.

Cllr Craig, of Newham Council (since 2002), and Leader of the Christian People’s Alliance, has already made a reputation for himself by leading public opposition to the… Continue

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At 1:53 on February 24, 2010, Alan Lake said…
Yes please!
At 20:22 on February 23, 2010, Richard Londonbourne said…
Alan, I am ready to go at any time. Did you want me to send your letter to Gerard Batten as you have written it?
At 17:59 on February 21, 2010, Alan Lake said…
I came across the Lord Pearson video by chance, so here's the link:
At 20:59 on November 3, 2009, Kinana said…
deed done. you should probably join the theology room now!
At 15:22 on November 3, 2009, Kinana said…
thanks for your comment on the eve. may i post it on your behalf? i think it is worth putting it up as a blog post, in the theology room if not in the main home page. the theology room is
At 9:32 on November 3, 2009, Kinana said…
any thoughts on the latest debate effort by Alan Craig? i wonder also if and how the organisation or atmosphere was different since a different Muslim group was involved.
At 9:35 on October 16, 2009, Kinana said…
hey RL, you might want to give Alan some support on his blog here
i look forward to your report re the debate tonight
At 8:40 on October 13, 2009, Kinana said…
thanks for my first laugh of the day!
At 8:35 on October 13, 2009, Kinana said…
'Islam or Christianity: Which One Provides Comprehensive Solutions for the British Society'

mentioned here

you indicated that your were attending!

good morning
At 23:55 on October 12, 2009, Kinana said…
Dear RL
if you make it to the debate on Fri can you do us a report on 4F?

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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