It takes a nation to protect the nation
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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You are not alone. I think it is important to try to get people you know and respect to read about islam. And the best way to do this, in my opinion, is to get them to read The Life of Mohammed. It is a fundamental text of islam, and it is very readable. I will send you the details in an email.
I,ve calmed down a little now. I have not seen the film you speak of but I think I can understand what you meen. I find myself in a situation which seems to mirror the statement " I am nolonger one of you" Its the way I feel about the culture that I am surrounded by, it seems so alien. I dont meen the immergrant cultures but that of the indigenous people, my people. Its very,very much akin to the film " the body snatchers" since the advent of the tv they have changed completly, many have spent their entire lives haveing relashionships with people on the tv who dont exsit!!! its inpossible to hold an intelligent debate with them...still as long as we have good health we should always try to look on the bright side!!! Hope things brighten up for you soon.
casual green
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Manchester it is then, just name the day and the time and I will be there. I look forward to meeting you and have no doubt that it will be enlightening. I do not know the City well , only the area around piccadilly station, so we would proberly have to meet there, if thats ok. My computer is off line for the next day or so , but I will respond when it comes back online. I look forward to exchangeing ideas with you.
casualgreen
Thank you for the response, I have just read your comment on the post by Allan Lake, concearning the abuse of the young child.....This threat is one of the reasons that I shun all connected to me, familly and culture. I have no fear of you biteing ha! And I would love to meet you as we are all in this togeather. I have an idea though it might not be possible for you, it ties in with your post and our shared beliefs. I find manchester a little big and soulless, mybe if you have the time and you felt good about the idea you could come over to my City, I live in Chester, it is said to be avery beutifull place,it certainly is old and my people are of very old stock , you could take in the city and its history and at the same time make a quite powerful statement...Have a think about it , from manchester it takes about 40 mins on the train, if you had half a day it should be quite rewarding,and you would be aiding the anti political correct fight in this City, If you cant I will come to manchester as it would be nice to meet you..
casualgreen
would you belive I have only just read your return comments .I have no idea how to use these machines and though I love to write I give up because everything goes wrong...You brought me down to earth with a nasty bump!!! Giveing people espescilly the young ones of my familly the cold shoulder and the silent treatment, has been a sad tactic for me, it is the only way I felt I could go. Strange is the world and its paths, I wish to leave the world my familly and our culture inhabits, and seek a return , or more correctly to let our real selfs and our true culture flow through us . To be the common English once again! It is very,very true to say that noone is an island and that without love there is nothing. To care for and to be cared for is all there really is......Take care Ruhannah, keep your chin up
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