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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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At 12:03 on July 20, 2010, lee highdale said…
Well I think its safe to say we are on the same page concerning this i am going to prepare something only I want to tell them to their face,I travelled down on a coach and it was fucking ridiculous drink,drink,drink by all means have 2 cans and drink on the way back it the sad truth Alan they looked like a gang of wankers and am not speaking for a gang of wankers the U.A.F are laughing at them Islam is laughing at them their not laughing at me,Alan L said their is going to be a secure site for x-military only its up to us to keep it secure i was sent a link last night but couldn't access it we have to keep this x-military I personally think theirs a majority of E.D.L supporters who think this is a game its gonna have to change and its the lads like us who know how to change it,it needs discipline before it can move forward
At 7:25 on May 8, 2010, dean said…
welcome to 4freedoms grenadier.
At 7:20 on March 28, 2010, Alan Lake said…
Hi Grenadier! You probably want to join the UK Room (its under the Europe tab).
Also, check out this discussion:

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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