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adrian panthers replied to paul collings's discussion 'Who knew Osama was there?' in the group United States
"  Dear Paul   I cant take the official news of Bin Laden's death seriously, I think he was already dead. The official story has changed so much. Obama wants to gain credibility to win the next election. As a marxist kenyan islamist he…"
May 5, 2011
adrian panthers replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Debt Ceiling: only $180 billion to go before US default' in the group United States
"Dear Alan   I suspect some inflationary pressures would reduce debt in real terms including printing money (quantitive easing). Ireland and Greece would benefit enormously by coming out of Europe. They could reduce their debt in…"
Mar 17, 2011
adrian panthers replied to sarah's discussion 'TEMPLARS RETURN: CHIVALRY V FEMINISM' in the group UK Room
"Dear Sarah   A reformed catholic priest some years ago taught me the Cabala and lent me many books on the Templer tradition. Unfortunately he is no longer around. (love your blogs).   Adrian "
Jan 19, 2011
adrian panthers replied to sarah's discussion 'The United Nations Exposed' in the group UK Room
"Accountability is key. 80% of UK regulation now from EEC. It slowly accumulated. Certainly, the leftists have in mind the UN to become a government in the same way. Lord Monckton said that if the UN get the ability to tax nations…"
Jan 19, 2011
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'Books & Reviews'
"Dear Pat Thank you for your comment concerning my review. Must admit there are spelling mistakes and some  commentry I  disagree with. Alas I have bought his book and still think it is excellent. You have the right to to say it is…"
Jan 8, 2011
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group '*Theology Room'
"Dear Kinana   The media always drags up dreggs concerning how muslims are to intergrate better, better pr, more inter faith dialogue and so on. You would be surprised at how few muslims know about Muhammad's slave…"
Dec 14, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'United States'
" the Usa should use coal to oil technology the costs are quite competitive with USA having thousands of years of coal supply.     "
Dec 11, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'Books & Reviews'
"Living by the Point of my Spear, by Zaki Ameen. Looks a good summary of Mo's life and evil actions. Will order it and comment further."
Nov 30, 2010
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Nov 30, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'United States'
"Hello friends, the EDL being against radical muslims, this being honourable and just in fighting to preserve our freedoms (whats left of them). Most muslims are not interested in jihad. However, the more a muslim becomes devout they then become a…"
Nov 29, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'UK Room'
"I personally think Galloway is a stalinist and hence will say anything to get the muslim and left wing vote. If ever he became pm he would be signing death warrents to all those people he thinks are bigots before going to sleep just as Stalin did.…"
Nov 24, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Danny Jeffrey's blog post 'SAUDI ARABIA...THE REAL ENEMY'
"A referendum on whether the Quran should be banned would be a good start."
Nov 12, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Udi Shayat's blog post 'leftist leaders agenda of support for Islam'
"Hello Udi I was a member of the swp when a student. Interetingly Lenin in 1918 ordred the closure of all churches and religions to be destroyed. Many priests executed , now the leftists supporting the islamic cause seems so so hypocritical the most…"
Oct 16, 2010
adrian panthers replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Be Careful' in the group UK Room
"Alan hope all ok Why are us uk people more into being dhimis than our american friends? They protected us against hitler and stalin, yet our lefty idiots seem to think islamists are brill. Perhaps anything against are system (ie capitalism means…"
Sep 19, 2010
adrian panthers commented on Netcon's group 'UK Room'
"Hello Alan Things are hotting up in America! Yes I agree the Paster is very brave, I think the ground zero mosque is pissing off so many Americans and there will be some ADL supporters who will overeact. The Muslim community there do not understand…"
Sep 8, 2010

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How to humiliate the Guardian newspaper?

Posted on August 20, 2010 at 14:00 9 Comments

Journalist Andrew Brown has mad a disgraceful attack on Pamela Gellor and Robert Spencer claiming they are racist and bigots in an article in the Guardian August the 18th. They are doing an excellent job for the American Defence League and are relentlessly fighting against islamic supremicism in America. Good news in a Guardian polll concerning the ground zero mosque, even 64% of Guardian readers are against it dispite the propaganda against anti jihadists pouring out of this politically…


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At 11:57 on September 9, 2010, Alan Lake said…
Yes, that is a difficult situation.

But he has no right to both have a stated opinion on a subject, and say he doesn't want to talk about it. That like saying you believe in slavery, but you can't be bothered to defend your position. Its is gross. Your brother can only reasonably say:
"My off the cuff assessment would be to allow the 9/11 victory mosque, but I haven't time to investigate the issue properly so I could be wrong".

I would advise him that, since he is supporting a fascist ideology and an organisation linked to some terrorist groups, he would be well advised to keep his mouth shut until he CAN go into the issue properly, and IS sufficiently well informed to defend his positiion.
I would say that I do not feel that fascism and human rights are a trivial or laughing matter, so I personally do not take them so lightly. I would question that he is so easy going about being linked to fascists and racists who refuse to sign up to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and are guilty of so many such acts world wide.
At 18:00 on July 19, 2010, Kinana said…
welcome to 4F. I look forward to your participation here.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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