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How to humiliate the Guardian newspaper?

Posted on August 20, 2010 at 14:00 9 Comments

Journalist Andrew Brown has mad a disgraceful attack on Pamela Gellor and Robert Spencer claiming they are racist and bigots in an article in the Guardian August the 18th. They are doing an excellent job for the American Defence League and are relentlessly fighting against islamic supremicism in America. Good news in a Guardian polll concerning the ground zero mosque, even 64% of Guardian readers are against it dispite the propaganda against anti jihadists pouring out of this politically…


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At 11:57 on September 9, 2010, Alan Lake said…
Yes, that is a difficult situation.

But he has no right to both have a stated opinion on a subject, and say he doesn't want to talk about it. That like saying you believe in slavery, but you can't be bothered to defend your position. Its is gross. Your brother can only reasonably say:
"My off the cuff assessment would be to allow the 9/11 victory mosque, but I haven't time to investigate the issue properly so I could be wrong".

I would advise him that, since he is supporting a fascist ideology and an organisation linked to some terrorist groups, he would be well advised to keep his mouth shut until he CAN go into the issue properly, and IS sufficiently well informed to defend his positiion.
I would say that I do not feel that fascism and human rights are a trivial or laughing matter, so I personally do not take them so lightly. I would question that he is so easy going about being linked to fascists and racists who refuse to sign up to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and are guilty of so many such acts world wide.
At 18:00 on July 19, 2010, Kinana said…
welcome to 4F. I look forward to your participation here.

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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