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ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c&feature=player_embedded   i feel like im beating a dead horse so to speak, does anyone know if the jewish community has objections to prestunned halal on religeous grounds? if they dont, its worth…"
Feb 4, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to sarah's discussion 'ukgovsuckstv: Tommy V Paxman on Newsnight' in the group UK Room
"yeah i agree, tommy said the right things too, he never come on with some "im superior to you" attitude to be shot down in flames. saying instead hes the voice because there is no other voice to represent the people. i have a feeling there…"
Feb 3, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2009:303:0001:0030:EN:PDF im a little confused here, im assuming control will be handed over to the european union in january 2013, and  regulation 1099/2009 (the link above) is…"
Feb 2, 2011
Kinana replied to ilovecoffee's discussion 'suggestion for 5th.' in the group SHIRE Room
"glad to know you're coming on Saturday.  there will be plenty of cameras but you're right we need to have our own cameras so we can create and record and own our own story."
Feb 1, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"RELIGIOUS SLAUGHTER (reply from defra) Thank you for your detailed response of 26 January. To clarify the legal position with regard to religious slaughter, Directive 93/119/EC permits an exemption from the requirement to stun animals for methods of…"
Feb 1, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"its not been my work, im awaiting permisson from a friend to publish a reply she received from defra today. she had wrote to them regarding this. we may be able to break the issue down and pursue it through animal rights, as the laws was…"
Feb 1, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"well i believe basically muslims are monopolising the meat industry. they also take a share of the profit for a tax to go towards the islamic community, (why not the whole community? discrimination?) i was unsuccessful in trying to find out the…"
Jan 31, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1995/731/made the interesting point here, schedule 12, 2. slaughter by a religeous method,   (a)"by the jewish method by a jew for the food of jews" (b)"by the muslim method by a muslim…"
Jan 31, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to Alan Lake's discussion 'Row brewing over halal meat regulation' in the group *Animal Lovers Room
"alan i have some interesting legal documents here, i am unsure as to the validity of the documents as of now,(laws may have been amended) but should they actually be still in force they may be very helpful. the first is the exemption from stunning…"
Jan 31, 2011
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*Animal Lovers Room

For those concerned about Halal Meat, Dog Fighting, Blind Dogs, and Rejection of Dogs in Taxis & Police work.See More
Jan 31, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to John Sobieski's discussion 'INEFFECTIVENESS OF MASS DEMONSTRATIONS IN FIGHTING ISLAMISATION' in the group UK Room
"alan, what are you needing volunteerwise at the minute? im afraid i cant do leaflets though. or do you have an area of ideas waiting for implementation should someone have the time?  "
Jan 31, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to John Sobieski's discussion 'INEFFECTIVENESS OF MASS DEMONSTRATIONS IN FIGHTING ISLAMISATION' in the group UK Room
"splitting demos is a good idea, although large single demos hold good water too. 1. people travel less distance, should help total numbers 2. it divides an already thin on the ground enemy(these are getting virtually free if not totally free…"
Jan 30, 2011
ilovecoffee replied to John Sobieski's discussion 'INEFFECTIVENESS OF MASS DEMONSTRATIONS IN FIGHTING ISLAMISATION' in the group UK Room
"i believe the demonstrations are invaluable, but i do think theyre not been utilised to their full potential. Firstly, it should be realised how difficult it is to achieve numbers of protestors turning up to campaign any event to highlight a cause.…"
Jan 30, 2011
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UK Room

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Jan 30, 2011
Alan Lake left a comment for ilovecoffee
"I love coffee too! Can't get enough of it. Hurray for coffee!"
Jan 28, 2011
Kinana left a comment for ilovecoffee
"Welcome ilovecoffee to 4F."
Jan 27, 2011

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At 3:09 on January 28, 2011, Alan Lake said…
I love coffee too! Can't get enough of it. Hurray for coffee!
At 9:54 on January 27, 2011, Kinana said…
Welcome ilovecoffee to 4F.
 
 
 

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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