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English Defence Leagues Tommy Robinson interview on Radio 5 live (04/01/2010)

English Defence Leagues Tommy Robinson is the voice of the silent majority on Victoria Derbyshires BBC Radio 5 live show on Monday 4th January 2010. He was on the show to explain the EDLs position on Anjem Choudary and his islam4uk groups plan to march through Wootton Bassett and islamic extremism in general.

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Comment by pyrus on January 14, 2010 at 23:13
very well done

sensible responses

there's a quite a bit of 'them Muslims' at the end (which doesn't sound brilliant)

but overall I think the message is very strong
Comment by Kinana on January 6, 2010 at 9:02
good interview indeed. nothing said there that can be misconstrued or found offensive by middle england.

Anjem Choudary is teaching the public about Islam and is a challenge to the so-called moderate muslims in this country to actually do something about him and his group of misunderstanders of islam. instead they call edl and sioe names and demonstrate against them/us.
Comment by dean on January 6, 2010 at 0:45
well handled tommy.

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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