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Radical Islam: The Most Dangerous Ideology

Is radical Islam our generation's most dangerous ideology? Is it comparable to what Nazism and Communism were in the 20th century? Or are Islamists no more dangerous than extremist Christians, Jews, and Buddhists? Raymond Ibrahim, author of "The Al Qaeda Reader," explains what radical Islam is, and shows how Muslims and non-Muslims alike can help defeat it. Raymond Ibrahim explains the ideology that threatens every one of us

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Comment by Joe on June 22, 2016 at 1:48

I adopt Ockham's Razor (avoid the unnecessary supposition of objects) when it comes to this (otherwise) difficult issue.

There is Islam and there are Muslims. No-one's shown me any criterion for distinguishing between Islam and Radical Islam or between Muslims and Moderate Muslims.

If they want me to believe there are 4 (or more terms) to this problem domain rather than 2 terms, then the onus is on them to provide a good reason why I need to make this problem more complex than it is.

To the supposed complexity that not all Muslims are terrorists, I simply respond: not all Nazis worked at Auschwitz.

As for why Ibrahim might have become a back-slider, it could be that if one is in the "I have an Institute" game or the "I want someone to fund me to call myself a Research Fellow", they might only do this on the condition that their money is funding someone who makes these unnecessary duplications of entities. It gives the funder some room to manoeuvre when they come under attack for "funding an extremist".  Just a thought.

Comment by paul collings on June 21, 2016 at 17:19

I like Raymond Ibrahim, but even he seems to have fallen into the Two different types of Islam routine.

If someone draws a picture of Muhammad, or violates a koran or blasphemes in some way so as to cause offence to Islam then what seem to be perfectly reasonable Muslims start screaming killing each other and pulling their own hair out.

After the youtube video about Muhammad had been blamed for  Benghazi then hundreds of thousands of seemingly moderate muslims were seen all over the world threatening to go all jihad on everyone, each other, any goats walking by ect ect.

To say that 10% of the Islamic world is some extreme cult aside from the main heaving mass of Islam and that only 2% of this extremist movement are dangerous isn't helpful.

  I hear it day afterday that Islam is peaceful and that its only a small minority of the 1.5 billion Muslims world wide that want to do us harm. If that is true why all the excuses. And more importantly why is it that when Islam does find itself insulted in some way, no matter where in the world that insult comes from, is there always a protest involving thousands of seemingly everyday moderate Muslims.

Its true that the Muslim brotherhood was ousted in Egypt, but they tried to impliment sharia far too quickly, breaking many of their  own rules of playing the long game.

It was the people that were to blame not the Ideology. No one in Egypt has blamed Islam or the Sharia for a single death in any of the uprisings. They do however blame the USA and other western governments. And of course the copts.

Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

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These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
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Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
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The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
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