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EDL demo Birmingham

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EDL demo Birmingham

Time: October 11, 2014 from 2pm to 4pm
Location: Birmingham
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Event Type: edl, demo
Organized By: EDL
Latest Activity: Jan 25, 2015

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Event Description

To take the message into the heart of the Trojan Horse

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Comment by Kinana on January 25, 2015 at 17:18

here are a few of my pics from this demo.  

Comment by Kinana on October 13, 2014 at 20:16

The English Defence League
Birmingham Demonstration YouTube Links

EDL Chairman Steve Eddowes Speaks Publically - Birmingham 11 October 2014

EDL Alex and the Bandits performing at Birmingham - 11th October 2014

EDL Birmingham - Bill Sir William ‘I am not a racist’ – 11th October 2014

EDL Birmingham - Sally on Muslim Grooming Gangs – 11th October 2014

EDL Bossman ‘British and Christian Values Eroded’ – Birmingham – 11th October 2014

EDL ‘The Grooming of a 9 year old boy’ – Birmingham – 11th October 2014

EDL ‘A Knights Templar addresses the crowd’ – Birmingham - 11th October 2014

EDL Ian ‘Birmingham Trojan Horse Scandal’ 11th October 2014

Comment by Kinana on October 9, 2014 at 18:51

*****DEMO DETAILS*****

Coaches should enter Brum via J3 M5 following the Hagley Rd straight in to Broad Street. Police will pick up and escort them in Mini buses should head in to Broad Street via M5 J3 also . Drop off at Bar Risa and then will be escorted to the Taxi rank by the ICC to park up. Its about 100 yards from Bar risa. Cars should park in any of the car parks along Broad Street..

Bar Risa (Quayside tower, 259-236 Broad Street. B1 2HF ) is the only bar that will officially accommodate us . This will be open from 10.45 am.. The police have said they will be operating low key and we will have the freedom of Broad Street so any pub that is open that will serve us we can use also. We will be looking to muster for the march to the cenotaph at 12.45 pm..

Let's make this demonstration positive, let's not give anyone the opportunity to slander us. When we enter Birmingham we will do so peacefully, when speeches are over we will leave peacefully, we don't want anyone being arrested on trumped up charges again. NFSE !

Comment by Kinana on October 8, 2014 at 14:05

The English Defence League

Birmingham demo 11 October 2014

Media briefing

Comment by Kinana on October 5, 2014 at 23:34

Aother reason to attend this demo!  The unofficial band of the EDL

Comment by Kinana on October 3, 2014 at 16:57

Birmingham – Here We Come!

There are many reasons for the EDL to return to Birmingham. The history of the Sharia-pushers and the current applications for Muslim-only cemeteries and a new Mosque are just a few. The Sharia-pushers simply will not be stopped unless we protest their plans to turn England into a fiefdom of Mecca. 

The EDL will not tire of resisting these attacks on our country. Like free men and women, we will demonstrate anywhere in this country, speak the truth about Islam and continue to call on our government to respond to the problems we are exposing.

Please join us if you can.

Comment by Kinana on September 30, 2014 at 22:39

Comment by Joe on September 28, 2014 at 23:10

Paul, a few years ago I listened to the high dudgeon of a middle class lawyer, whose recently deceased mother could not be buried in her nice, leafy town.  Only muslims could be buried, all non-muslims had to be cremated.

So I fully expect these muslim-only cemeteries to get the go ahead.

Comment by Kinana on September 28, 2014 at 12:13

The dedicated page for this event is

Comment by Kinana on September 27, 2014 at 21:38

Muslim Cemeteries near Solihull

Two applications come before the planning committee next month. They are for Muslim-only cemeteries near the village of Catherine-de-Barnes in Solihull, near Birmingham.

These applications are for two sites covering 11 acres on viable farmland situated within the Green Belt conservation zone. They would have room for 11,000 Muslim graves. The local authority and national planning regulations both expressly forbid development in Green Belt areas.

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