It takes a nation to protect the nation
November 21, 2012 from 7pm to 10pm – London https://www.facebook.com/pages/MegaMosqueNoThanks/256027487811077 Invites have gone out to both Newham MP`s , and the councillors for Plaistow North and West Ham. Alan Craig will be speaking , and in… Organized by the MegaMosqueNoThanks (MMNT) team | Type: talk, discussion, uk
November 26, 2012 from 6pm to 8pm – Imperial College - Kempton Building, LT201 An Interfaith Debate between two experienced apologists: SAMI ZAATARI (UK) and DAVID WOOD (USA) The format will be a debate followed by an open Q&A session. Muslims, Christians, and people of… Organized by Imperial College Islamic Society and the MDI | Type: talk, debate, uk
November 29, 2012 from 6pm to 8pm – University of Portsmouth MDI Debate David Wood vs. Sami Zaatari Organized by Joe | Type: talk, debate, uk
December 12, 2012 from 6:30pm to 8:30pm – Muslim Institute The ‘conversation’ shall seek to re-examine the notion of what the term ‘secular’ means to Arabs and the connotations it carries, but more importantly how Muslim Scholars and the legal practitioners… Organized by Semiticart; The AEA; Muslim Institute | Type: talk, discussion, uk
January 30, 2013 from 6pm to 8pm – Grand Committee Room of the House of Commons Release supporters are warmly invited to attend a talk and discussion at Westminster on freedom of belief and the persecution of Christians. Release patron Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali, the former Bisho… Organized by | Type: talk, discussion, uk
February 6, 2013 from 6pm to 10pm – Friends' House INTERFAITH DIALOGUE: DOES IT WORK? Wednesday 6 February 2013, 6:30pm prompt Friends' House 173 Euston Road London NW1 2BJ Spiro Ark and Harif have assembled prominent Jewish, Christian and Muslim r… Organized by | Type: talk, debate, uk
February 11, 2013 to February 15, 2013 – SOAS The speakers list does not appear to contain one person who would be critical of "islamism". The vast majority are muslims; of the dhimmis who are going most (if not all) are employed by infiltratio… Organized by Joe | Type: talk, discussion, uk
February 18, 2013 from 6:30pm to 8pm – Old Theatre, Old Building, LSE The Nobel economist F A Hayek was the arch-rival of Keynes in the 1930s and 1940s. Some today say that he has the better explanation of boom-bust cycles and how to end them. His prescription is the e… Organized by Joe | Type: lecture, talk, uk
March 4, 2013 all day – London Can someone sue the Sunday Times; their following apology is cheap and easy to do with no obligation for better future- their ideology need to be modified by replacing some managers and writers ther… Organized by Udi Shayat | Type: talk
September 29, 2013 from 5pm to 6pm – Internet / Sweden There will be no public meeting with the two EDL leaders Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll. Dispatch International has been forced to realize that Sweden no longer enjoys freedom of speech and assemb… Organized by The International Free Press Society (IFPS) | Type: talk, discussion, web, sweden
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Welcome to 4 Freedoms!
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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