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Power is not uni-directional, but forms a more complex structure than a straight line.  Femen make use of their assets and the tittilation of the media to draw attention to issues affecting women.  Roman feminists thanked Femen for drawing attention to sexism in Italy.  At first when I heard of Femen, I thought "they need to take their fight to islam, but they probaby won't".  The very next interview I heard with them, they said that that was near the top of their list, but that it is going to be very dangerous.

If you don't watch Russia Today, then you will have missed them.  And if they can get me jumping out of my seat and shouting "go, girls", then I think the rest of you will appreciate their efforts too.

I love this image on their home page: http://femen.org/

Here are images from many of their other confrontations. 

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=femen&hl=en&client=opera&a...

Our history in the west could have been so different in the past 30 years if we'd had these kinds of feminists, instead of Germaine Greer and Maryam Namazie.  Our feminists were in fact the direct ideological descendants of the suffragettes, who were only interested in the vote for middle class (property-owning women) rather than democracy and universal suffrage (and a host of other issues affecting women). 

 

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Revolutionary "feminist" Jane Fonda contrasted with Femen. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275506/Berlin-Film-Festiva... 

Just like it's The Torygraph standing up for gay rights in east London, it's the Daily Mail standing up for the rights of muslim girls in Britain.  Totally through the Looking Glass.

Femen Stages a 'Topless Jihad'

Apr 4, 2013  

Earlier today, members of Ukrainian feminist group Femen staged protests across Europe as they called for a "topless jihad." The demonstrations were in support of a young Tunisian activist named Amina Tyler. Last month, Tyler posted naked images of herself online, with the words "I own my body; it's not the source of anyone's honor" written on her bare chest. The head of Tunisia's "Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice," reportedly called for Tyler to be stoned to death for her putatively obscene actions, lest they lead to an epidemic. Tyler has since gone quiet, leading some to fear for her safety. Below are images from Femen's protests today in Sweden, Italy, Ukraine, Belgium, and France. A warning, nearly every photo depicts nudity, and most contain offensive language. [31 photos]

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Activists of the women's rights movement Femen face riot policemen during a topless protest near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013. Femen called for a day of international "topless jihad" on April 4 with Femen groups staging protests in various European cities in support of Amina, a young Tunisian woman who caused a scandal when she published photos of herself bare-chested on the internet in March.
Activists of the women's movement Femen remove their jackets as they arrive to demonstrate topless in front of the Great Mosque of Brussels, Belgium, on April 4, 2013.
Activists from women's rights group Femen shout slogans during a protest supporting the rights of Arab women, including the Tunisian activist Amina, at the entrance of the Brussels Mosque, on April 4, 2013.
Activists from Femen take part in a protest in front of the Consulate General of the Tunisian Republic in Milan, Italy, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists protest in front of the Tunisian Consulate in Milan, on April 4, 2013.
Activists of Femen take part in a topless protest outside the Tunisian consulate in Milan, on April 4, 2013.
A Femen activist shouts during a topless protest outside the Tunisian consulate in Milan, on April 4, 2013.
Policemen arrest a Femen activist during a topless protest at a mosque in Kiev, Ukraine, on April 4, 2013.
Photographers take pictures of detained activists from women's rights group Femen, who are held in a police van after taking part in a protest in front of a mosque, in Kiev, Ukraine, on April 4, 2013.
Activists of the Communist Youth Organization alongside women's right movement Femen hold up placards as they take part in a protest outside the Tunisian embassy in Stockholm, Sweden, on April 4, 2013.
An activist of the Communist Youth Organization alongside women's right movement Femen gestures as she protests topless outside the Tunisian embassy in Stockholm, on April 4, 2013.
Topless Femen activists protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris, on April 3, 2013.
Femen activists try to burn a Salafist flag to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris, on April 3, 2013.
A Femen activist burns a Salafist flag in front of the Great Mosque of Paris, on April 3, 2013.
A man kicks a topless Femen activist, as she raises her fist to protest against Islamists in front of the Great Mosque of Paris, on April 3, 2013.
Ukrainian activist Inna Shevchenko (right) of the women's rights movement Femen takes part in a topless protest with other Femen activists near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists demonstrate near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists protest near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Ukrainian activist Inna Shevchenko and other members of Femen struggle with police officers during a protest in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
A Femen activist is removed by the police during a topless protest near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Police officers detain a Femen activist in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists struggle with police officers in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Police officers detain a Femen activist in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists demonstrate near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
A Femen activist is removed by riot policemen during a protest near Tunisia's Embassy in Paris, on April 4, 2013.
Activists of the women's movement Femen demonstrate in front of the Ahmadiyya-Moschee (Berlin's oldest Mosque) in Berlin, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists speak to media in front of a mosque during a protest in Berlin, on April 4, 2013. The radical feminists, calling for more sexual freedom for Arab women, were protesting in support of a young Tunisian woman who received online death threats from ultraconservative Muslims after posting topless photos of herself online.
Femen activists demonstrate in front of the Ahmadiyya-Moschee in Berlin, on April 4, 2013.
A Femen activist demonstrates in front of the Ahmadiyya-Moschee in Berlin, on April 4, 2013.
Femen activists hold up protest signs in front of the Ahmadiyya-Moschee in Berlin, on April 4, 2013.
A police officer stands in front of the Ahmadiyya-Moschee, after Femen activists staged a protest in Berlin, on April 4, 2013.

Femen: "Arab Spring has become Sharia Winter"

Well, we freedom fighters were predicting this would be the outcome over a year ago.

http://4freedoms.com/group/Africa/forum/topics/arab-spring-brings-t...

http://4freedoms.com/group/egypt/forum/topics/the-arab-spring-aka-t...


http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/03/26/topless-tunisian-femen-p...

A lawyer claiming to represent Tunisian topless protester Amina Tyler says she is safe and well and with her family.

Bouchra Bel Haj Hmida, who is also a well-known woman's rights activist, spoke amid conflicting reports on the Femen activist’s whereabouts.

Following threats to stone Amina to death for posting topless pictures of herself online, Femen representatives said they had lost contact with 19-year-old and feared for her life.

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One of the pictures posted on the Femen Tunisia site

Femen leader Inna Shevchenko last week told The Atlantic she had received reports that Amina had been “del...

Shevchenko also said she had been alerted to a video in which Amina’s aunt claimed her niece had “decided to kill herself and so ...

On Tuesday Hmida told AFP: “I spoke to her yesterday, Amina told me she was doing well and wou...

In an interview with Tunisia Live she said her client was not missing “and has never bee...

Huffington Post UK put the latest developments to Shevchenko who told us: “Rumors about Amina's case are coming out everyday.

“Since the day I lost connection with Amina we [have] got information from strangers that Amina is safe, in hospital, being raped in the street, with her family, having beer in a bar, that she has been arrested. But still no sound from Amina.

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Femen leader Inna Shevchenko pictured protesting on St Peter's square at the Vatican in January

“I don't know too much about Amina, and less about her family, and I never heard anything about any lawyer.

“But I clearly remember our conversation with Amina about [the] reaction of her family, that was strongly negative. So that’s why Amina was staying at a friend's house for safety after posting the picture.

“We see that the family is trying to share news that Amina is safe and [that they] don't want any support campaign. The woman who calls herself [her] aunt claims that Amina has mental problems and that’s why she posted the picture. The lawyer is representing the interests of the family, but not Amina's.

“We still didn't hear [the] voice of Amina and didn't see her face. Until the moment we hear word of Amina about her safety we are searching for her and continuing our international bare breasts support.

Amina's example is the voice of Arab spring that turned as cold Sharia’s winter. [An] Arab spring that can come back. Amina represents those who are going to break anti-human traditions that come from the Middle Ages but still are practiced today. For them it's easier to kill a woman then to agree that she has rights. “

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The storm erupted when Amina posted a photograph of herself with the words "Fuck your morals" written across her chest, to the Femen-Tunisia Facebook page.

Another image showing her smoking a cigarette with: "My body belongs to me, and is not the source of anyone's honour", written in Arabic script across her bare chest, was also posted.

Tunisian newspaper Kapitalis quoted the Wahabi Salafi preacher Almi Adel, who heads the Commission for ...: "The young lady should be punished according to sharia, with 80 to 100 lashes, but [because of] the severity of the act she has committed, she deserves be stoned to death.

"Her act could bring about an epidemic. It could be contagious and give ideas to other women. It is therefore necessary to isolate [the incident]. I wish her to be healed."

If she committed the offence in Tunisia, Amina could be punished by up to two years in prison and a fine of 100 to 1,000 dinars [between £40 and £400], local media said.

On March 16, Amina appeared on the popular Tunisian talk show 'Labes' to discuss her desire to bring Femen to Tunisia, Jezebel revealed. (Scroll down for video)

Twitter user Saida Manoubia points out the programme host suggests committing Amina to an institution during the interview.


Saida Manoubia
Don't forget that committing to a mental institutiton was suggested by of during his interview of .


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The first picture posted of activist 'Amina'

Hundreds of women have since submitted topless pictures of themselves to the Femen Facebook page supporting Amina. The organisation has had to blur the nipples of the women featured to comply with Facebook rules on nudity.

A petition and an international day of action on April 4 to highlight the threats against Amina have been organised by activists.

More than 94,000 people have signed a petition calling for those who have threatened Amina's life to be prosecuted.

An open letter calling for an International Day to Defend Amina has been signed by many feminist and atheist activists, including atheist Richard Dawkins.

The letter says: "On the day and beyond, groups and individuals can join in by highlighting her case, posting topless photos of themselves and their activism on social media sites, signing a petition, Tweeting #Amina, writing letters in her defence, and more.

amina femen facebook

A message of support posted on the Femen Facebook page

"On 4 April, we will remind the Islamists and the world that the real epidemic and disaster that must be challenged is misogyny - Islamic or otherwise."

Social media accounts of the Tunisian branch of Femen have been reportedly infiltrated by hackers, with videos and pictures on the site being replaced by verses from the Koran.

According to International Business Times, the accounts have now been suspended.

One message read: "The page has been hacked and God willing, this debauchery will disappear from Tunisia."

Femen said in a statement they were furious about the "barbarian threats of the Islamists about the necessity of reprisals against the Tunisian activist Amina," .

"We are afraid for her life and we call on women to fight for their freedom against religious atrocities.

"Use your body as a poster for the slogans of freedom. Bare breasts against Islamism."

Femen was founded in 2008 in Ukraine. It claims to be active in 17 countries and to have more than 150,000 supporters.

Leftists,Feminists & Muslims unite against Femen ; http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/rebecca-meredith/femen-are-brave-wo...

Guardianistas say Femen are racist & colonialist ! ; http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/11/femen-nudity-ra...

The Guardian's neo-fascists are past the point of dialogue.

HuffPo reports that Amina Tyler has been arrested again.  What is of greater significance is the reporting of Femen's stance. Namely, that Femen

claims the student is continuing the group’s “anti-Islamist campaign” and refers to Sharia law as a “medieval, bloodthirsty cult,” with “naive dogmas of second-class women and manic lust for blood.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/20/amina-tyler-topless-tuni...

Apart from EDL, I can't think of another group that's staging protests that are this damning of islam/sharia.  Amina, and the others, are incredibly brave women.

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