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It takes a nation to protect the nation

The silence from the worlds presstitutes human rights jokers and Islamic (read Suadi) appeasers is damming.

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With the aid of petro-dollors the wahhabis and their ideological friends the deobandis have managed to influence a whole generation of muslims.

They seem to be above critisism from anyone. Obama bows to the saudi kings, and the OIC runs the UN. The capitulation of western leaders to islam is so complete and with resolution 16/18 soon to be passed, i don't expect to hear any complaints about the destruction of anything. Wait untill it starts across europe.

I'm sure plenty of people are complaining about the destruction of history. But they will be islamophobes, racists and hate preachers.  So the media arn't going to report what they're saying.

Islam is moving around the world, destroying eveything in its path, they all have different names but they all believe in the caliphate. They'll kill anyone any destroy anything to further that goal. And whos going to stop them? Not us it seems.

If Iran can build a nuke i think WW3 would be on.  Not because they would most likely use one, but because the world is so fragile at the moment, i don't think we could live with them having one. The threat level would be too much for us. Certainly to much for Israeli.

Someone some where is going to have to stand up to Islam, whether its Sunni or Shia, because where ever you look, they are becoming ever more dangerous. And thats because of our weakness. The MB expose our weakness's, but we have the spineless leaders and they know it.

I don't think Israel's problems are perceived. It occupys a tiny strip of land that means nothing to surrounding countries. Except that it is occupied by jews, the mortal enemys of mohhamad and therfore the mortal enemy of all muslims.

The problem is Islam, it will not live side by side with anything non islamic. If they can destroy israel and kill as many jews as is possible this will not stop them coming after you and me.  

The IAEA has a lot of Arab muslim inspectors. I wouldn't let them in. And as for Israel getting others to die for them? its the west fighting over the oil, and i think a lot of jews are dying for  themselves.

And lets not forget it suited the west to have a friend like israel in the middle east. Although when Egypt and Syria attacked in 67 it was us Europeans who denied the Americans access to Air fields so America could help. So we havn't been the best of friends, and it could be said that from that moment we joined the jihad against them. I'm sure israel is not sure who to trust at times.

Look at that little spot  that is Israel. All it would take is for the Arab world to say 'OK, have it'. It would be a more important event than the fall of the berlin wall. (my opinion). 

But because of the Koran Israel cannot exist. What do yu think?

Islam will not be happy until the world is under it's jackboot, Israel is just the most obvious thorn in the Caliphate's side due to the Koran's traditional jew-hatred and its geographic proximity. The spread of Islam must be resisted on a global level if it is to be halted and then rolled back, whether it is showing solidarity with Buddhists in Southern Thailand, British working class people in Bradford....or Israelis in the Middle East.


I think the Japanese are caught between a rock and a hard place when constructing the Spent Nuclear Fuel Pool.  If they put it at ground level or below, it can be earthquake proofed, but its a Tsunami will wash right thru it  If they put it a few stories up, the opposite applies, to some extent.  Japan is just a really difficult place to put nuclear reactors.  I've walked around Kyushu island and it sometimes feels as if the whole ground area is unstable.

Yes Dave, that may be true about US investment, I'm just giving the point of view from Japan, because I've been there many times and know how they think.  Putting the storage tank up a few floors was the lesser of two evils.

As regards nuclear energy, all Japanese hate and loath it because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the deformities which still came out decades later in people's babies.  But again they are between a rock and a hard place.  Japan has virtually no natural resources, no oil, no coal, no gas, no mineral wealth - it just has the ingenuity and hard work of its people.  So they feel forced into some nuclear power, to reduce their dependence on foreign countries.  

I'm not justifying it, I'm just saying that's how things panned out.  As with many strategies, the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and I really don't know what the answer to their problems is.

Dave, I am going through the video link you posted.  I got as far as the undentified woman speaking about the dangers of radiation.  then later in the film the credits list a Dr Helen Caldicott so that must be her.  I have read a few of her essays and one of her books.  I am glad to know she is still fighting the good fight.  Plutonium is the most leathal substance in the world and it is man-made.  We cannot in the long term protect ourselves from what we create!


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