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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Sikhs and Hindus complain over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to…

Started by Alan Lake

1 May 18, 2012
Reply by paul collings

Killing and Persecution of Sikhs Continues in Punjab PANTHIC.ORG  | Published on March 29, 2012  Bhai Jaspal Singh who was gunned down in cold-blood by the…

Started by Alan Lake

0 May 11, 2012

Muslims called to seduce and convert Sikh girls

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Started by Alan Lake

0 May 11, 2012

Explaining Islam in Gurbani - by Bijla Singh

It is a common misconception among Muslims that Gurbani (the message of Satguru) advocates Islam and its practices. To support their conjec…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Apr 12, 2011
Reply by Alan Lake

Sikh girls being groomed by Muslims

"We (Muslims) have more control over our girls, unlike your girls, they're slags and have no sharam (shame)" Emotional video, of a true st…

Started by peterpedant

0 Apr 26, 2010

Kidnapped Sikhs were forced to cut hair and convert to Islam

By Deepak Lal The story of kidnapped Sikhs in Pakistan has had a new revelation, with the two men revealing in their 42 day captivity they…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Mar 19, 2010
Reply by Kinana

3 Sikhs beheaded by the Taliban in Pakistan's FATA

NEW DELHI: In what threatens to cast a shadow on the upcoming Indo-Pakistan talks scheduled for February 25, three Sikh youths were beheade…

Started by Alan Lake

2 Mar 1, 2010
Reply by Alan Lake

Lessons from the Gobind Geet

On Buhkti: Guru Gobind Singh: From one perspective life's unreal And from that view has no appeal. But from a second, life's composed Of t…

Started by Netcon

0 Sep 18, 2009

Lessons from History on Sikhism

This section of the historical record shows several lessons we should learn from the Sikhs. Maharaja Ranjeet Singh Ji and the Rise of the…

Started by Netcon

0 Sep 18, 2009


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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