The 4 Freedoms Library

It takes a nation to protect the nation

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This room is for the Code of Conduct, Mission Statement, and other key documents that define 4F, and are referred to on its home page.

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The site content is managed by 3 curators:

  • Alan Lake     - original founder
  • Kinana          - membership secretary
  • Paul Collings - comment moderator

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FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)

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Glossary of Arabic Language

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Use of Blind Copy (BCC:)

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Glossary of Terrorists & Enablers

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Glossary of Islamic Terms in English

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 14, 2012. 21 Replies

Code of Conduct [PCD]

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Questions from the Media

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by paul collings Apr 26, 2012. 3 Replies

The 10 Ideology Metrics

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4F Copyright Considerations

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The 12-Point Plan for Equal Civil Rights [PCD]

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Comment by Alan Lake on February 6, 2016 at 3:47

We've stopped taking in new members thru the web interface for now.  So on the Homepage, there is no "sign-up" section for joining, only a "sign-in" section for existing members.  If you select sign-in, you will now see this comment:

"This library records threats to the 4 Freedoms before they are lost due to deletion, archiving or search ambiguity. Membership is now closed"

The reasons are as follows:

  • We are not interested in debating the world anymore, so we are not looking to win people over by the brilliance of our argument, or whatever.  (There are plenty of other websites attempting that already).
  • 4F has become a valuable information resource.  We could call the active members "curators", since everyone has now mostly got the hang of posting information so as to enable intelligent recovery - in a way that other websites do not.  So we don't want 4F to become damaged by new people posting randomly all over the place, and the admins are too busy to go through an education process on new those people.

It is still possible for a new person to join, if:

  • they have an existing active member as a good friend who can recommend them
  • the existing member knows the applicant is basically with us, so we aren't going to waste time debating nonsense with him/her
  • the applicants good friend will show them the ropes, so they have a basic idea of how to contribute here.

So for the above case, just write to any of the admins (me, Kinana or Paul Collings) and we will take it from there.

Thanks again for any and all contributions you make, which are helping to preserve the historical record, and demonstrate the connections and patterns that our fake media deny.

Comment by Antony on September 28, 2012 at 7:37
Comment by Alan Lake on September 28, 2012 at 5:03

Yes Anthony, its hard to know what to say to people that can't absorb such glarringly obvious points.

Comment by Antony on September 27, 2012 at 9:08

The Innocence of Muslims - Freedom & Foreign Policy ;

Comment by Antony on September 27, 2012 at 9:02

Dave & Alan - re the article below, I know this is probably stating the glaringly obvious, but the Innocence of Muslims was not actually "offensive", but factual - Prophet Mohammed did have an elderly woman torn apart by camels for criticising him, and did have paedophile sex with Aisha - its all there in the Holy Koran. A point which our Dear Leaders seem ignorant about and failed to raise at the UN !

Presumably if a devout muslim had made the film and done it to glorify the life of the Big Mo and incentivise muslims to conquest of the  West with tales of rewards of loot and rapine, then muslims would be flocking to see it and cheering it on ?!

Comment by Alan Lake on September 27, 2012 at 2:54


Its amazing that someone purporting to be on the side of EQUAL human rights and freedom, could go so far astray. 

Reading their neo-fascist propaganda, done with all the subtlety and logical twists of a latter day Goebbels, actually made me feel a bit sick.

Comment by Kinana on September 21, 2012 at 0:27

Tony, I look forward to any report you want to put here (or best in the UK room).  Stay safe.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on September 21, 2012 at 0:24
I hear Muslim extremsts will be taking to the streets of Manchester on Saturday, starting at Platt fields in Manchester at 2pm, a heavy police presence will be on show to control possible violence. People working in Manchester are being told to stay away or find alternative arrangements. I'll be there to see these cretins first hand. Let's just see what kind of numbers they pull in.
Comment by Alan Lake on September 21, 2012 at 0:01

Hi Dave,

Thanks.  Both those videos are actually already in the 3x4 box of top videos on the Homepage.  That site is good though.

Comment by Kinana on May 28, 2012 at 12:11

Use of Tags

Ning is not very good at the use of tags though.  the best that i have figured out is in the general search facility at the top of the page put in, for example,:


then click on any of the results

then click on the tag at the bottom of the article that says 'ChildrensRights' and then and only then do you get all the articles tagged in that room only with the tag  'ChildrensRights'

if you (or anyone else) has figured out a better way do let us all know.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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