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Deals with ideological threats to our freedom and society.
Analyses argument and rhetoric in all its forms: media interview, debate, and oratory.
Also considers fight back by fixing the 4 constitutional vulnerabilities as identified in the principles of 4F.
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Religious arguments go in the Theology Room, so all the rest (i.e. secular ones) come into this room. One-on-one arguments are treated in the same way as combat skills are treated in the UFC, as a pure skill, unrelated to the truth or falsehood (whatever that is) of the underlying message.
The CODA glossary is here:
http://4freedoms.com/group/argumentation/forum/topics/dialogue-analysis-glossary
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(The Quran and Bible are books of nonsense masquerading as wisdom and truth).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SGzYrGzBlA&list=WL&t=948
Who Wrote the Qur'an | What Sources Were Used?
The Historical Method.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjmmPrqQ_Vk&list=WL&index=11
How women changed the university atmosphere
(We have undermined our culture, and the virility of it, with kindness . We are killing ourselves with kindness).
Quran
Surat Al-Mā'idah
5:32
Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
5:33
Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,
(Those that call Islam the Religion of Peace leave out "...unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land..." from 5:32 and do not include 5.33 are criminally negligent.)
(Here Mohammed condemns the Jews, Children of Israel, as transgressors guilty of corruption. Indeed anyone that opposes Islam or refuses to convert is guilty of corruption and transgression. 5:33 defines the bestial punishment for corruption. Mohammed also sanctions revenge killing here.."unless for a soul "....)
-"...that they(Muslims) be exiled from the land...." Is our only certain cure against Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly67lnekEwc
Multiculturalism is 'a miracle of STUPIDITY' | Jordan Peterson talks Trump, Sunak and Israel
Ayn Rand.
We can learn from anyone that says sensible things that we can agree with. But we must not have blind-belief in anyone or anything or any idea or philosophy or system of belief. It does come down to the individual and our own self-centred needs. In other words we cannot and should not agree completely with anyone. We have to weigh the pros and cons of anyone that we interact with. To which degree are they compatible with with "ME" and to what degree are they incompatible. We can also learn from people that we completely disagree with. All we can do is attempt to be objective and sort that which is constructive and useful from that which is destructive and harms us physically, or psychologically. What threatens or benefits the core of that which is Me and all that I care for. We are allowed to hate as well as love or to be indifferent.
Know thyself and understand the reality of the world that you interact with, the good and the evil and the harmless. Reject religion in all of its manifestations.
Dynamiting the Temple of Ayn Rand ; https://www.unz.com/article/dynamiting-the-temple-of-ayn-rand/
Of course most of the manipulation is instinctive, and the seller actually believes what he is saying. Which makes him dangerous, the most convincing "liars" are the ones that believe that what they are saying is true.
Edward Bernays
Public Relations (1945), book.
"Of his many books, Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923) and Propaganda (1928) gained special attention as early efforts to define and theorize the field of public relations. Citing works of writers such as Gustave Le Bon, Wilfred Trotter, Walter Lippmann, and Sigmund Freud (his own double uncle), he described the masses as irrational and subject to herd instinct—and he outlined how skilled practitioners could use crowd psychology and psychoanalysis to control them in desired ways. Bernays later synthesized many of these ideas in his postwar book, Public Relations (1945), which outlines the science of managing information released to the public by an organization, in a manner most advantageous to the organization."
(How advertising, entertainment and everything else became political and intended and used to indoctrinate the masses). You have to be constantly aware that most of what you are presented with by every form of media is designed to shape your mind. Fortunately some people have a natural ability to recognise falsity. Everyone is selling something.
They shouldn't abuse the term racist, it is stupid of them. Racist is a clearly defined definition. But when you are dealing with feeble minds what can you expect?
At the same time they claim that race does not exist and is a social construct. So how can anyone be a racist?
Racist: A person that discriminates against or is prejudiced towards someone based on their race.
The Crucial Existential debate of our time ! - Is it racist to like Big Butts ?! ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym1jVx7oZRk
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them.
At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.
Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.
We need to capture this information before it is removed. The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.
We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.
These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper).
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:
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