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Fightback by Ideology, Dialogue & Constitution


Fightback by Ideology, Dialogue & Constitution

Deals with ideological threats to our freedom and society.  

Analyses argument and rhetoric in all its forms: media interview, debate, and oratory.

Also considers fight back by fixing the 4 constitutional vulnerabilities as identified in the principles of 4F.

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Latest Activity: Mar 14

Key Info

Religious arguments go in the Theology Room, so all the rest (i.e. secular ones) come into this room. One-on-one arguments are treated in the same way as combat skills are treated in the UFC, as a pure skill, unrelated to the truth or falsehood (whatever that is) of the underlying message.

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  • "The strictly leveled playing field is not a level playing field  (it advantages thugs)" - Alan Lake
  • "Let me now state what seems to me the decisive objection to any conservatism which deserves to be called such. It is that by its very nature it cannot offer an alternative to the direction in which we are moving. It may succeed by its resistance to current tendencies in slowing down undesirable developments, but, since it does not indicate another direction, it cannot prevent their continuance. It has, for this reason, invariably been the fate of conservatism to be dragged along a path not of its own choosing. The tug of war between conservatives and progressives can only affect the speed, not the direction, of contemporary developments." - Hayek, 1961

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Discussion Forum

Fascism, Nazism and Socialism - collected articles

Started by Paul Austin Murphy. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 14. 82 Replies

Terminal Societal Sickness

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 16, 2022. 40 Replies

Lauren Southern - leaving politics

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Jul 31, 2022. 5 Replies

Failed Heroes of the Left: Keir Starmer

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Feb 15, 2022. 8 Replies

The Power Elite

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Feb 7, 2022. 664 Replies

Failed Heroes of the Left: Tony Blair

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Antony Jan 2, 2022. 32 Replies

The Death of Democracy - collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 12, 2021. 32 Replies

Doxing the Doxers

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 9, 2021. 2 Replies

The Ideological Chasm

Started by Joe. Last reply by Joe Mar 2, 2021. 336 Replies

The US constitution

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Dec 3, 2020. 2 Replies

How to Respond to Abuse from SJW & Leftists

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Oct 18, 2020. 2 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 5, 2023 at 15:09
'Not Qualified': Ted Cruz Tells Biden FAA Nominee To His Face That He Has No Aviation Experience
(Positive discrimination endangers lives). and ruins our lives.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 4, 2023 at 16:01

Only someone completely loyal and respectful to our culture and laws should be allowed to become a police officer or member of parliament. A muslim is only loyal to islam and sharia, he has no loyalty to british culture or respect for british law.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 4, 2023 at 15:35
1. The state or quality of being just and fair.
2. Something that is just and fair.
(Equity misinterpreted as opposed to real equality results in a lowering of standards everywhere in society. Would you live in a building that was built according to a lowering of standards especially in an area prone to earthquakes?
Skin colour is not a qualification. If we are colour blind racially and the system is just and fair. The same people will rise to the top, pass the examinations and qualify for the job. All things being equal the blacks will still lag behind in certain areas of expertise).
Some countries collapse and some countries succeed, it all depends on the standard/level of abilty of the population.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2023 at 17:51

What would Lady Chatterleys Lover be if you took out all of the dirty bits. The book is about tenderness and love, and fucking is a desirable part of the relationship between a man and woman in love.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2023 at 17:46
donald duck comics cancelled.
Disney is blocking the re-release of some of Scrooge McDuck's origin stories, says creator Don Rosa
"Rosa’s revelation about Disney’s decision to withdraw material that is out of sync with its current standards coincides with recent revelations about the unannounced rewriting of classic children’s books by British author Roald Dahl. The changes were made by the Roald Dahl Story Co., which controls the rights to the material following the author’s death; it defended the changes in a statement explaining that they were made “to ensure that Roald Dahl’s wonderful stories and characters continue to be enjoyed by all children today,” and noting that in publishing classic works, “it’s not unusual to review the language used alongside updating other details including a book’s cover and page layout.”
I am completely against the rewriting of any literature or history book or the banning of any art work or movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How I hate easily offended people.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2023 at 17:23
World Premiere: Died Suddenly.
(I do not believe that this is a conspiracy rather that it is incompetence and ignorance and abuse of power. In other words a bunch of stupid people doing harm either wifully or out of ignorance. The human population of the world is too high and will cause destruction. But I do not believe that a mass murder conspiacy is being enacted. Rather that a rushed and untested vaccine is causing many deaths. Those that have caused this disaster naturally are unwilling to admit blame).

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 18, 2023 at 15:57
The victors write a history that conforms with their own self image.
Socialism is bad in all of its forms because it always ends up in oppression, the taking away of personal freedom. Without personal freedom there can be no economic creativity, such as in capitalism. Though if unrestrained capitalism is just as bad as unrestrained socialism. As in all good things there has to be a balance.
Few would dare to say anything positive about Hitler.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on January 1, 2023 at 10:01
Towards a New European prehistory: genes, archaeology and language – Kristian Kristiansen
-We must accept the past because it is what we are and we should not apologise for being what we are or for the deeds of our ancestors.
This ethnic war continues and if we cannot defend what is ours it will be taken from us.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 25, 2022 at 8:22
Best TV shows for regular folk (non-woke, anti-woke, in no particular order)

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 25, 2022 at 8:09
Self-proclaimed 'mistress' seeks tax-funded sex 'dungeon' from Fort Lauderdale commissioners
This may seem insignificant but it is just one of the thousands of petty issues that are tearing apart the fabric of our civilisation. Every minority lunatic or not is demanding recognition and tax-payers money. That laws be enacted and enforced to protect them.
Every thing from trans, woke and vegan to the huge problems of hundreds of thousands crossing the US and EU borders, the war in Ukraine, the Taliban in Afghanistan, climate and covid fanatics, ad infinitum.
You have to wilfully ignore every reality if you are to indulge in the fantasy of a one cultural united world.
As Enoch Powell said: We must be mad, literally mad, ...watching a (world) busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.
(“We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre.”)


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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