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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Sorry but it has to be diagnosed by a psychiatrist, it could be interesting."

Tha Grenadier replied Jun 19, 2010 to Islamophobia.

6 Jun 19, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"Thanks for that mate."

Tha Grenadier replied Jun 11, 2010 to Islamophobia.

6 Jun 19, 2010
Reply by Kinana

"TassieTracy, This is a reply i maid to Indoeuropean a while ago, I hope it helps. R…"

Tha Grenadier replied May 25, 2010 to How do we wake up the Aussies?

9 Jun 19, 2010
Reply by Donna Jones

"I am sorry but I can not help it, I have to say it yet again. Fight back, Do not al…"

Tha Grenadier replied May 17, 2010 to Celebrate Conformity [Mark Steyn]

5 May 17, 2010
Reply by Tha Grenadier

"How to wake up Australia ? Well 1st, I believe Australians should always reject the…"

Tha Grenadier replied May 17, 2010 to How do we wake up the Aussies?

9 Jun 19, 2010
Reply by Donna Jones

"Dave ",I am fully prepared to take up arms about this scourge...politicians are usel…"

Tha Grenadier replied May 3, 2010 to This is the thin end of the wedge.

13 Jun 19, 2010
Reply by Donna Jones

"Old war Dog, If your in the Vanguard ill be right next to you. No Surrender."

Tha Grenadier replied Apr 2, 2010 to Stronger Border Protection

7 Apr 2, 2010
Reply by OldWarDog

"Australia is in a better position than the UK but only if it acts quickly. You, My…"

Tha Grenadier replied Apr 1, 2010 to Stronger Border Protection

7 Apr 2, 2010
Reply by OldWarDog

"Indoeuropean you make a good point but what people are forgetting and what the Musli…"

Tha Grenadier replied Mar 30, 2010 to Australian Prime Minister about the Need to integrate or else

8 Apr 2, 2010
Reply by freechoice

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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