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It takes a nation to protect the nation

From the posts on this site and information from the media, it would appear this country is under siege from illegal immigrants. What can be done to wake the government up and make them get tough with individuals and groups attempting to illegally enter this country. It is now starting to look like the beginning of an invasion.

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Thanks for starting this. I may be wrong but I have the impression that you antipodean guys have not yet woken up to the reality of the ideological invasion - what it will mean for your future freedom and lifestyle. Please try invite more people into the AUS+NZ room to try make people aware of what is happening.
You are so right all media and government departments are scared of even making the slightest comment that may be seen as racist, sexist or in any way politically incorrect. This is the Achilles heel of our culture, we want to be so fair that we cannot even verbally fight back. we are supposed to be a free country but have laws that shut down any public debate or demonstration against multiculturalism or uncontrolled migration. Personally I would halt all Islamic immigration until after the war with Islamic fundamentallists is over, as that has been going on since the crusades it would be for a very long time and anyone making speeches promoting terror or implementing sharia law in australia should be stripped of their citizenship and made to leave.
freechoice said:
You are so right all media and government departments are scared of even making the slightest comment that may be seen as racist, sexist or in any way politically incorrect. This is the Achilles heel of our culture, we want to be so fair that we cannot even verbally fight back. we are supposed to be a free country but have laws that shut down any public debate or demonstration against multiculturalism or uncontrolled migration. Personally I would halt all Islamic immigration until after the war with Islamic fundamentallists is over, as that has been going on since the crusades it would be for a very long time and anyone making speeches promoting terror or implementing sharia law in australia should be stripped of their citizenship and made to leave.

It's the same here in the UK. The political correct insanity has gripped our leaders to such an extent that they've banned the word Christmas from certain places, banned nursery rhymes that have the word black in them, banned our national flag from certin places, banned, banned, banned, banned, our national identity is seriously under threat and it gets worse every day.

Freechoice, we are on a mission. A very important mission. You are a part of this mission. WAKE PEOPLE UP!! BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!
Australia is in a better position than the UK but only if it acts quickly.

You, My fellow Australians must force our government not to stop immigration but to stop Islamic Immigration.
There is no need for it, The Muslims have plenty of land, They don’t like our Law’s, They don’t like our customs and they don’t like our religions.
So we have to ask ourselves why do they want to live with us ?
They have told us time and time again, they want everything we have including our soles Islam is a religious Cult of Hate and Evil.
Every one has herd it but for some like our governments its going in one ear and out the other, Its like day-ja-vu Peace in our time comes to mind, we can not appease these people.

So you my friends in Australia and in fact in all the free world its crunch time, Fight back now or go under its as simple as that.
Tha Grenadier said:
Australia is in a better position than the UK but only if it acts quickly.
You, My fellow Australians must force our government not to stop immigration but to stop Islamic Immigration. There is no need for it, The Muslims have plenty of land, They don’t like our Law’s, They don’t like our customs and they don’t like our religions.
So we have to ask ourselves why do they want to live with us ?

They have told us time and time again, they want everything we have including our soles Islam is a religious Cult of Hate and Evil.
Every one has herd it but for some like our governments its going in one ear and out the other, Its like day-ja-vu Peace in our time comes to mind, we can not appease these people.

So you my friends in Australia and in fact in all the free world its crunch time, Fight back now or go under its as simple as that.

It's worrying, but it is as 'simple as that'. I don't know what to say any longer. It's as though these nations of ours have been overthrown already. Overthrown from within by a breed of commnist sleeper cells.

My own country was once a nation of bloodthirsty conquerers. A nation of kings. A nation who ruled the world with a might and vigour unseen. We showed no mercy, we held pride that knew no bounds.

Today, we are ruled by schoolchildren. We're ruled by an elite class of efeminate, bleeding heart girls. Where have all the leaders gone? What has happened to Britain? What has happened?

I read an old adage one time. Not so long ago. Something about a nation that lay sleeping whilst the devil walked free in its midst. That nation has started to stir though. That nation has started to wake. We will not stand for this invasion! ISLAM, your days are numbered. If I've to lead the charge myself, your time here is coming to an end!! I promise you this, ISLAM, you will burn in hell!!
Old war Dog, If your in the Vanguard ill be right next to you.

No Surrender.
Tha Grenadier said:
Old war Dog, If your in the Vanguard ill be right next to you.

No Surrender.

That's the spirit Grenadier, we need more like you!

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