Another insider speaks about the threat of Islamism
A Word from the Horse’s Mouth: Islam Will Blow Up Our Society
|Boualem Sansal, understands Islam and the danger surging therefrom because he grew up in and with it. That is why his book “2084” is such an important collection of insights wrapped in a story about the end of our world.
By Alexander Shah
Dateline, Berlin, Germany – 2017:
If out of all this doom and gloom that emerges out of the very sober assessment of the situation in Europe going forward – as it is in the mind of an intelligent Algerian dissident – himself a lapsed renegade Muslim who cherishes the values that made the West – then it is this: today still the majority of Germans believe that Islam does not belong to Germany – according to a recent poll, 61 percent represent this position. Only 22 percent disagree. But this is poor solace when we take into account the spiritually or intellectually lukewarm attitude towards defending these values by the White European inheritors of the Western Civilization. They do not wish to defend their inheritance. They are too busy pleasing themselves or making money. The Algerian dissident intellectual with enormous courage, whose life is on the line every day, Boualem Sansal, understands Islam and the danger surging therefrom because he grew up in and with it. That is why his book “2084” is such an important collection of insights wrapped in a story about the end of our world.
In the past, others thought about the end of the West, men like Dr. Oswald Spengler (in a brilliant work “Decline of the West”) or George Orwell who wrote his work “1984”, where he termed his vision of an impersonal superstate (a kind of Communist caliphate) in charge of the control of the people – “Oceania” – a state vision of dictatorship that operated along the lines of the Nazi-Soviet model of party-based corporate machine. For those who understand Islam, there will be no such superstate in store for an Islamic Europe led by Muslim fanatics. Instead, it would be a glorified 3rd world banana republic in which machinery and industry are operating on a subsistence level not too dissimilar from Iran after the revolution where cars manufactured every year are the same. Islam as a body of ideas possesses no dynamism and no urge to advance forward and soar in any sphere of intellectual pursuit. Islam is about walking in circles. Once Europe goes Islamic, it would take a Space Alien invasion to remove Islam from the dried corpse of a bygone Europe.
Author Boualem Sansal is right about one thing especially: the faith dictatorship without love or imagination that Islam would impose in Europe would seek to eradicate the past and brainwash everyone into thinking in present terms only. There would be no love but only coldness in such a society. And he has all these post-colonial Muslim countries around Europe today as evidence of what portends for European countries overtaken by Islam in the atmosphere of the existing lukewarmth of Europeans. Europeans today do not defend their values, the Germans especially don’t. For that reason, the warning from the New Testament’s Book of Apocalypse is evermore true:
“I know your deeds; you are neither cold nor hot. How I wish you were one or the other! But since you are like lukewarm water, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth!” (Revelation 3:15-16)
“Islam will blow up our society”
Is Europe threatened by Islamization? In his novel “2084. The End of the World” the Algerian writer, intellectual and critic of Islam, Boualem Sansal, tells about a Muslim religious dictatorship. He has a special warning for Germany.
One early morning, nine o’clock. It is raining heavily in Paris. Boualem Sansal, 66, still took the metro. We meet in my quiet office in a backyard in the Marais. “It’s great here,” he says, then he sits down at the round table to describe a world in which there is no beauty, only fanaticism. He cut off his ponytail, which made him look like an Indian. Yesterday he was in Warsaw, tomorrow he will move on again. He has never been on the road for a book for so long, he says. He can barely make it home in Algeria. “2084 The End of the World” is the title of his most recent novel. Following the example of Orwell’s “1984”, Boualem describes a faith dictatorship. It is the radical Islam that has taken power and wiped out all memories of the time before it.
World on Sunday: Monsieur Sansal, your book is very grim. Orwell has at least one love story.
Boualem Sansal: I also wanted something encouraging. But in this world of Islamism, love would have been unbelievable. Orwell may have been an atheist communist, his imagination was Christian. In Christianity, love structures life.
Welt am Sonntag: It not only structures life, but also religion itself.
Sansal: The idea of salvation through love is omnipresent in the Christian universe. In Islam, there is only the chief love, the love of God. In this love, the women hide. The woman herself does not matter. Love [as we know it] is exactly what Islam fights.
Welt am Sonntag: Although your book is not enjoyable reading, it sold more than 300,000 copies in France alone. How do you explain this success?
Sansal: The people wake up. They realize that Islamization is not a local phenomenon but affects the whole of Europe. We are all scared – even if not everybody wants to admit it.
Welt am Sonntag: What kind of experience was it to write such a gloomy book?
Sansal: Neither painful nor pleasurable. I’m a scientist and I look at things like a behavioral scientist. Now and then something can move me, but then I bring myself to reason. You have to look things in the face without fooling yourself.
Welt am Sonntag: How does a Muslim read this book?
Sansal: A Muslim like me, who is not a believer but grew up in a Muslim country, probably reads it like you and me. You’re wrong about the West if you think the Muslims are all Islamists. They are more afraid of Islamism than the people of the West.
Welt am Sonntag: Since the attacks in Paris and Brussels, the West is also afraid.
Sansal: Sure. That was just the beginning.
Welt am Sonntag: A kind of wake-up call?
Sansal: Yes. After the assassination of “Charlie Hebdo” it was different. The majority could understand it. After all, they had committed blasphemy. They said it was not right to kill, but look what they did …
Welt am Sonntag: They provoked it like the girl in short skirt provokes her rape?
Sansal: Yes, and because of this logic, January’s attacks did not rouse people. The Bataclan, on the other hand, was an Islamist attack because it attacked the other for what he was, for his culture, for his lifestyle. It was a place for young people like the bars, the stadium, the places that make up the West. But the Islamists just want to provoke this process of raising awareness. They know that they can not defeat the West militarily. You can not even defeat the weak Arab states. So they have to make the West destroy itself. They want to split society, and they know that if they succeed, they will collapse on their own.
Welt am Sonntag: There are right-wing populist intellectuals in France who support the theory of “grand replacement,” the suppression of Western Christian civilization by Islam. Basically you say the same thing. What is the difference?
Sansal: I think the term is unhappy. It is not about replacing the population, but about a kind of fusion: France is about to Islamize itself.
Welt am Sonntag: But actually you agree with them. Is our culture going down?
Sansal: As a democrat I see our civilization go down with great regret, because it has brought humanity forward – even if their excesses have already hurt us.
Welt am Sonntag: Why are you staying in Algeria, why did you stay in the 1990s, when your life was threatened because of your criticism of the local conditions?
Sansal: I’m resisting.
Welt am Sonntag: Do you get your book in Algeria?
Sansal: In the meantime, but that took several months. At first people thought it was forbidden. It has passed under the table. From January it was suddenly everywhere. Wherever the wrong word is: in the few bookstores that still exist. After independence [from France], there were 150 cinemas and 250 bookstores in Algeria. There is not a single cinema left today and maybe four, five bookstores in Algiers. But the number of mosques has increased a thousandfold.
Welt am Sonntag: We have taken in a million predominantly Muslim refugees in 2016. What is your prognosis for Germany?
Sansal: Germany was completely naive. And in the long term, Germany is the country that is most threatened.
Welt am Sonntag: How naive?
Sansal: Because Germany has long imagined not to be affected by the problems of the world. “Islam, that is in France, in the UK, but not with us!” And then, because of the war experience, Germany is an extremely tolerant society. This is exploited. When the Algerian Islamists were driven out, they found refuge in Germany, where they were recognized as political refugees.
Welt am Sonntag: What evidence would you give that this war of cultures is already underway, even in Germany, that the Islamization of society is progressing?
Sansal: The clearest proof is the “Bataclan”. They have attacked not a barracks, but a concert hall, because they do not want a classic takeover, but lead a clash of civilizations. Secondly, just take a look at the Arab world, where this fight is unanimous and uninterrupted. As far as Germany is concerned, I am not so sure what will happen. Turkish Islam is not comparable to the Maghrebi. The Turks, who came to Germany in the seventies, immediately worked in industry. In France, the immigrants were left to their own devices. Algerians and Togolese were simply mixed, and they initially lived in inhumane conditions.
Welt am Sonntag: In Turkey, we are experiencing the Islamization of society with Erdogan. How do you see the development?
Sansal: The return of the religious, especially among the young, contaminates the whole society – and that will soon be felt in Germany as well.
Welt am Sonntag: We have experienced this interference and, if you like, contamination with the Böhmermann Affair [where a German journalist insulted the Turkish president publicly only to be arrested by his own German government on orders from the Turkish government].
Sansal: Erdogan behaves like a caliph, the Turks behave like subjects, and he has already built a palace. The Ottoman Empire was undoubtedly the most violent caliphate in the Islamic world. Currently, we are experiencing a return to this violence. Erdogan wants to rebuild the caliphate, but he knows that the Arabs would never accept it. Maybe he imagines extending his empire to Europe. For this reason, Germany is the most threatened.
Welt am Sonntag: You mean because of the Turks or because of the refugees?
Sansal: Neither. Because all Europeans resent Germany. Germany is rich, influential, extremely well organized. People dream of nothing but the crash of Germany. One nightmare complements the other. And Erdogan’s nightmares actually many Europeans share.
Welt am Sonntag: If you think that over, that would mean that we live under Erdogan’s caliphate in Germany. That sounds completely absurd. Is Europe at its end?
Sansal: Yes. It has no future anymore.
Welt am Sonntag: Can you still say what you think in Europe?
Sansal: No. It’s over. On the one hand, you invite me because you feel the need to hear other opinions that are not politically correct. At the same time, you are afraid that I will cause trouble.
Welt am Sonntag: What can’t you say?
Sansal: Nobody tells you that, it’s much more subtle. But everything that criticizes Islam causes problems. As if one can criticize everything today, even God, but not Islam.
Welt am Sonntag: Are you Islamophobic, Monsieur Sansal?
Sansal: Not in the sense of how the word is used. I do not like Islam, I do not believe in it, and I find that it is not just a danger, but an enormous danger. Islam will demolish our society.
Welt am Sonntag: Your colleague Kamel Daoud has caused a great deal of commotion because he described the young Muslims who attacked women on New Year’s Eve in Cologne as sexually repressed. Do you agree with him?
Sansal: Daoud lives in Algeria and experiences such situations daily. It is a society of frustration, not just sexual. A young Muslim who is suddenly confronted with a free society misinterprets a woman who shows her body.
Welt am Sonntag: Are we lacking the conviction and the courage to defend our values?
Sansal: The Islamists fight bravely for what they believe in. That alone has to be upheld. As far as we are concerned, unfortunately, I have to say: there is nothing that drives us. For the word freedom, we would have gone to the other end of the world sooner. Today it is hollow.
Welt am Sonntag: That’s not true. After the assassination of “Charlie Hebdo” millions have gone for the freedom of expression on the street.
Sansal: That was nothing more than a spontaneous feeling reaction. That had no value except to stage the heads of state. Above all, this poor Hollande, who would not do anything to a fly. In Algeria we have seen what people do when they are overwhelmed by emotions: meaningless, collective howling.
Welt am Sonntag: Do we have to take the title of your book literally: “End of the World”, no hope anywhere?
Sansal: You know, sometimes one little thing, one idea, one sentence, and things take a different turn. In Algeria, it was the words of the writer Tahar Djaout that went through the country like a fantastic wildfire. People were felled like dandruff from hair. He was right. His words encouraged.
Welt am Sonntag: What did he say?
Sansal: With his modest smile, he said in an interview, “If you talk, you’ll die. If you do not talk, you’ll die too. So talk and die.” A week later, they killed him.
Source: The Geller Report