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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"This Muslim drugs baron with his supercars was shot dead on M62. https://www.telegra…"

Joe replied Mar 22, 2018 to Scams Operated by Muslims

4 Mar 22, 2018
Reply by Antony

"A swastika and "muslims must die" was scrawled at Birmingham university (which is in…"

Joe replied Jan 20, 2015 to Muslim FFOs and Media Kuffarophobia (closed)

15 Mar 12, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"Muslim policeman is lynchpin of gangsters. Notice he was only caught when he turned…"

Joe replied Jan 8, 2015 to Scams Operated by Muslims

4 Mar 22, 2018
Reply by Antony

"In this radio interview, Tommy Robinson points out that for 2 years muslims in Luton…"

Joe replied Sep 18, 2014 to Muslim FFOs and Media Kuffarophobia (closed)

15 Mar 12, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"Lots of contrary evidence to that: 10,000 victims of grooming gangs, but no prosecu…"

Joe replied Apr 30, 2014 to 27% of London's prisoners are Muslim: Calls for inquiry

3 Apr 30, 2014
Reply by Kinana

"The elite have to keep the killing of Kris and Ross secret.  Because their killings…"

Joe replied Mar 8, 2014 to Glasgow: Kriss Donald stabbed and burned alive by kuffarphobes

12 Apr 14, 2019
Reply by Antony

"There is also this Topic. http://4freedoms.com/group/infiltration/forum/topics/peren…"

Joe replied Jan 26, 2014 to Muslim FFOs and Media Kuffarophobia (closed)

15 Mar 12, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"France: Imam who faked hate crime against his own mosque fined $1,350 and ordered to…"

Joe replied Jan 25, 2014 to Muslim FFOs and Media Kuffarophobia (closed)

15 Mar 12, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"At 7am, the day starts in sunny, downtown Marseilles (the part of the city which the…"

Joe replied Sep 2, 2013 to France: roll up, roll up... Watch the Implosion.

5 Sep 2, 2013
Reply by Alan Lake

"2001 - violence from muslims in the run up to the 2001 riots. http://news.bbc.co.uk/…"

Joe replied Jul 5, 2013 to Civil War - Collected Statistics

6 Jul 5, 2013
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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