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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"From your first above link - too true: 'There is no "Obama agenda" as such. There is…"

Alan Lake replied Jan 9, 2013 to HAIL CAESAR

5 Jan 9, 2013
Reply by Joe

"Unbelievable, that Farrakhan and NOI can have any credibility and be allowed to appe…"

Alan Lake replied Dec 2, 2012 to PETRAEUS...SCAPEGOATED BY TRAITORS

6 Dec 2, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

"Yeah Danny, we understand.  It looked pretty grim from this side of the Atlantic, so…"

Alan Lake replied Dec 1, 2012 to A BRIEF APOLOGY TO MY FRIENDS AT 4 FREEDOMS

4 Dec 1, 2012
Reply by paul collings

"Thanks for the info.  Definitely some sort of cover-up going on. Thomas Sowell trace…"


2 Oct 25, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

"An excellent essay Danny, it reads like a rousing speech!  I like the way you give s…"

Alan Lake replied Oct 4, 2012 to ON THE VERGE...

3 Oct 4, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

"Yep, we've seen their feelings towards him when he did meeting with them in Iraq :-)"

Alan Lake replied Sep 7, 2012 to THE COMING COLLAPSE

3 Sep 7, 2012
Reply by Alan Lake

"America has the greatest army on earth. Surely its government will be able to enforc…"

Alan Lake replied Sep 7, 2012 to THE COMING COLLAPSE

3 Sep 7, 2012
Reply by Alan Lake

"What is wrong with Christians?  Are they so Dhimmified and weak?  We Secular Democra…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 29, 2012 to A NEW EXODUS

14 Aug 30, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

"Hi Danny, I've got another off-the-wall thought.  It may not be quite right because…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 23, 2012 to THE NEW GATE KEEPERS 3.0

9 Aug 23, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey

"This reminds me of the excellent analysis of the OIC by Steve Coughlin:http://4freed…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 21, 2012 to THE NEW GATE KEEPERS 3.0

9 Aug 23, 2012
Reply by Danny Jeffrey


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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