It takes a nation to protect the nation
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Danny, you nailed it. Whenever ANYONE who poses a serious threat to the agenda of our so-called govt arises, they are immediately excoriated. The Soros owned MSM dutifully kicks in with its well worn narrative and the average person simply cannot see that there is a curtain behind which the real truth lies. They also cannot see how their own govt is betraying them.
As far as the Islamic threat is concerned, I attended an ACT meeting yesterday & viewed the film Losing Our Sons, which detailed the radicalization threat in our schools & universities that has emerged from subtle underground tactics to blatant, overt indoctrination. The father of the shooter was just as devastated as the father of the son who was killed. Both men were invited to one of Peter King's hearings and were basically dismissed by the colluding Dems on the committee with the usual pap. These two fathers, who were so brutally & cruelly struck have vowed to keep up their efforts
It also showed examples of misguided Christians & Jews practicing outreach to these barbarians. They are in such a state of denial that they cannot even challenge unmistakable statements from an Imam standing in front of them that are implying "We will eventually convert/kill you". Their reaction of complete silence is utterly incomprehensible--at least to me!
I've said the following before & will keep on saying it: Our biggest threat is from the good hearted, well meaning people in the Western Mindset who simply cannot fathom that such a system as evil, destructive, & freedom crushing as Islam could possibly exist. What will it take to jar them into reality!!!
Diane,
I cannot answer your question " What will it take to jar them into reality!!!" with any specificity, but I believe I can give you a bold generality. First off, I do not believe that Martial Law would wake up the entire nation. Many of our people are still deaf and blind to the reality that grows around us. Many would happily report gun owners and those with a reserve supply of food to make points with the local commissar. I have asked myself if New York City getting nuked would wake them up and I don't think so. Something like that or our food and water supply being poisoned would only give them more reason to look to the government to take charge.
In short, I believe that we literally have millions who cannot be awakened and, without knowing it you stated why in your comment above. You wrote "Our biggest threat is from the good hearted, well meaning people in the Western Mindset who simply cannot fathom that such a system as evil, destructive, & freedom crushing as Islam could possibly exist."
We are, for lack of a better word, Brainwashed from birth. Some of us are able to out grow some of our teachings, while many lack the strength to think for themselves at all. And that problem is equally culpable on both side of the coin. While many are not able to conceive of the absolute evil we face, those who were born into the evil of Islam cannot conceive of being humane. We were taught to have faith. They were taught to cut our throats. The worst among them cannot help being what they are anymore than can the weakest among us can abandon their ways. The meek shall indeed inherit the Earth, in the form of a plot about 3' X 6', the rest of us must engage when the time comes.
I cannot disagree with anything you've said. It is incomprehensible that the good hearted are part of the enemy within. When conquest is complete, they will stand in front of the firing squad or place their heads on the chopping block while saying "well, we evil imperialistic racist westerners brought this on ourselves".
If & when the time comes that we face destruction, I will not lift one finger to help such a useful idiot . To do so would only result in my death as well as theirs, and that is the brutal truth.
Lock & load!!!.
Diane,
You would have made a good paratrooper. The truth is often brutal, but it is still the truth.
As you say, "Lock and Load", and as I often say "Victory or Death".
Danny
This reminds me of the excellent analysis of the OIC by Steve Coughlin:
http://4freedoms.ning.com/group/community/forum/topics/un-the-oic-a...
Alan
That is an outstanding video. While Mr. Coughlin lacks Frank Gaffney's smooth delivery when discussing dry subject matter, his information cannot be questioned and his logic is impeccable. I watched about half of this and was interrupted and could not get back to it until today. Now I must watch it again with many pauses to retrieve links and quotes. You watched this, I watched this, and we both know that most people would not sit through the whole thing, therefore I must glean the most relevant issues and try to put these things into brief essays that people can absorb, in small doses.
This is a great source of information.
Thanks,
Danny
Alan,
Hillary Clinton is most certainly not alone in her efforts to turn the U.S. into an Islamic paradise. The DNC has invited 20,000 Muslims to their convention. Note that the DNC event will begin with a Jummah prayer, meanwhile prayer has been outlawed almost everywhere by their liberal counterparts. Topics of discussion, Islamophobia, Middle Eastern crisis, and the Patriot Act.
Allah be praised!!!
Danny
http://www.redstate.com/breeanneh/2012/08/21/radical-islam-joins-th...
Hi Danny,
I've got another off-the-wall thought. It may not be quite right because I've only random bits of info to go on.
Hilary Clinton always struck me as a bit odd, for a human woman. She sacrificed her own political career so her husband could get on, only to find that he'd cheated on her with a lot of women by way of thanks. Then she stuck with him, but, acknowledging that her sacrifice was in vain, she branched out again into politics, and was very successful.
But this all reminds me of the typical Dhimmi status of an infidel, only Hilary is behaving as a Dhimmi Muslim woman with respect to her husband. Surely, a non-Muslim woman would have said "enough is enough, I'm out of here", even if that means sacrificing all the connections and undoubted political skills of Bill? She can probably manage without him anyway.
So, Hilary is already a Muslim woman, and the whole Islamic ideology of submission and coercion does not seem foreign to her at all. So she is comfortable pandering to the Muslim vote, and doesn't see anything odd about that, or even threatening. She sold out long ago, to expediency, and Bill.
Alan,
I don't believe that your thoughts are so "Off the Wall". Watching her behavior toward Islam I can only visualize two possible scenarios: What you have described above or that she is a totally amoral woman driven only by the need for power and always ready to sell out to the highest bidder, as she has with Soros and Islam. Whether she is devoid of any form of morality or a dedicated Muslim infiltrator, she is one of the most dangerous people in our weakening power structure.
I wrote of Mister Coughlin lacking Frank Gaffney's smooth delivery, and must confess that I am running into the same problem. I am working on an essay as a reveal of the MWL and the OIC. Keeping a reader interested and focused on the history of a group, its policies and purpose is far more challenging than writing of individuals and their devious ways.
Frank Gaffney is magnificent. Throughout his ten part course on Islam he smoothly led from one danger to the next and kept my attention in full focus. He would have made a first university professor, but I am glad that he is where he is doing what he is doing. Just had a thought! perhaps the ticket is to not only stress what is in certain treaties and such, and leave it to the reader to comprehend. Mayhaps I should be emphasizing the element of danger more.
Danny
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