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Egypt: From Freedom of Dress to the Conformance of Submission (Islam) - in 25 years

I can't find the original article I got these photos from, but since many people are unaware of this clearly documented progression, I'm pu…

Started by Alan LakeLatest Reply

Egypt: Future President (12 yrs old) explains Democracy and the Muslim Brotherhood

This 12 years old boy is just stunningly, incredibly smart. Listen to him as he excoriates the Muslim Brotherhood, relentlessly dissecting…

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Videos On Persecution of Copts

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Nazi Roots of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood

Abbreviations: MB = Muslim Brotherhood, TR = Tariq Ramadan. When our media are telling us that the MB is no longer proposing violence and i…

Started by Joe

33 Apr 21, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

The Fascist World View of Hasan al-Banna and the Muslim Brotherhood

The World View of Hasan al-Banna and the Muslim Brotherhood http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/128355/sec_id/128355 by Joseph…

Started by Joe

1 Mar 31, 2015
Reply by Joe

Arab Spring=Sharia Winter=Fascist Summer

Whilst the bogus concept of "the arab spring" is meant to cover many countries, I will place this overview of those countries here.  Anyone…

Started by Joe

55 Oct 7, 2014
Reply by Joe

Final Conversation Between Morsi and Sisi

Morsi issues threats to the very end.  The General speaks with authority and dignity. Exposed: Final Conversation Between Morsi and Sisi by…

Started by Kinana

7 Dec 23, 2013
Reply by Joe

Churches Burning across Egypt

I start this page/discussion to keep track of the ongoing persecution and terrorism of the non-Muslims (mostly Copts) in Egypt. -- BREAKING…

Started by Kinana

34 Oct 2, 2013
Reply by Kinana

Egypt: From Freedom of Dress to the Conformance of Submission (Islam) - in 25 years

I can't find the original article I got these photos from, but since many people are unaware of this clearly documented progression, I'm pu…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Oct 1, 2013
Reply by shiva

Egypt: Future President (12 yrs old) explains Democracy and the Muslim Brotherhood

This 12 years old boy is just stunningly, incredibly smart. Listen to him as he excoriates the Muslim Brotherhood, relentlessly dissecting…

Started by Alan Lake

1 Aug 21, 2013
Reply by Alan Lake

Protests in Egypt: from Dictatorship to Democracy or Islamism

Regime Change in Egypt by Mudar ZahranFebruary 9, 2011 at 4:45 am http://www.hudson-ny.org/1872/regime-change-in-egypt Print Send Com…

Started by Indoeuropean

5 Aug 14, 2013
Reply by Alan Lake

High rate of harassment, sexual assault in Egypt and other Arab nations

http://am.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/17/high-rate-of-harassment-sexual-assault-in-egypt-and-other-arab-nations/ CBS News correspondent Lara Log…

Started by Joe

11 Aug 12, 2013
Reply by Joe

Egyptian cabinet discusses war against Israel

Last week the Egyptian government discussed the Ethiopian plan to build a dam that would divert the course of the Nile, a move Egypt thinks…

Started by Alan Lake

2 Jun 16, 2013
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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

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We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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