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Hindu Victims of Kuffarphobia

भारतीय और कश्मीरी हिंदुओं के लिए, इस्लामी कट्टरपंथियों से हिंसा और उत्पीड़न पीड़ित

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The Calcutta Quran Petition

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Alan Lake May 25. 1 Reply

India: Independence and Partition

Started by Alan Lake Nov 27, 2020. 0 Replies

Muslim Atrocities in India 2003

Started by shiva. Last reply by paul collings Jan 1, 2017. 1 Reply

Frederick Mackeson and a Muslim Assassin

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Keith Thomas Jul 30, 2016. 1 Reply

Jihad against Hindu Kashmirians

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Joe Oct 7, 2014. 3 Replies

Indian politicians facing criminal charges - BBC

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 17, 2013. 1 Reply

Indonesia Facing Ethnic Tension

Started by shiva. Last reply by shiva Nov 19, 2012. 3 Replies

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Comment by Antony on March 20, 2021 at 11:15
Comment by Antony on January 31, 2021 at 9:34
Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 6, 2020 at 18:30

There are Muslims living legally in India, but they are in conflict with the Hindus.

There are Muslims living legally in Britain, but I mean that they have no natural right to live there, and they are in conflict with the native British. The Muslims also are now allowed to claim that Britain is their country. They have even stated in Sweden that Swedes that do not approve of alien immigration should leave Sweden. Where should the Swedes go, to Somalia?

Islam is a destructive force everywhere that it exists.

Here's an idea for an experiment- Transfer every Swede permanently to Somalia and every Somalian to Sweden. What do you think the result would be?

Comment by Kinana on March 6, 2020 at 13:48

'"We strongly believe that no foreign party has any locus standi on issues pertaining to India's sovereignty," Kumar said.'

Does that mean that the elected government of India cannot or should not determine who is a rightful citizen of India?  The non-Muslims are fleeing persecution from the Muslim states of Pakistan and Bangladesh.  Which states are the Muslims fleeing from? 

OTH, I would think that Muslims in India who remained in India at the time of the Partition would have a right to citizenship though.  It is probably only those Muslims who have left Pakistan and Bangladesh after Partition, on seeing that the grass in greener in India, are the ones who are complaining.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on March 3, 2020 at 23:52

The Citizenship (Amendment) Act, 2019 (India).
"The constitutions of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh provide for a specific state religion. As a result, many persons belonging to Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi and Christian communities have faced persecution on grounds of religion in those countries."
These illegal immigrants, refugees from Muslim persecution, are being granted citizenship in India.
-Illegal Muslim immigrants are not to be given citizenship.-
United Nations Files Supreme Court Case Against India Regarding Unconstitutionality of New Citizenship Amendment Act
"We strongly believe that no foreign party has any locus standi on issues pertaining to India's sovereignty," Kumar said.

Comment by Alan Lake on January 3, 2019 at 7:58

Freedom fighter? Indian PM renames British colonial islands in memory of Nazi supporting nationalist Bose

Comment by Philip Smeeton on December 8, 2017 at 10:41

It might be dangerous to have cow worshippers in England though.

Comment by Antony on December 8, 2017 at 10:18
Comment by Alan Lake on December 6, 2017 at 11:23

India may start jailing for ‘instant divorce’ still used by local Muslims

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 24, 2017 at 17:59

They are all working for and following a collective idea and agenda, that they believe in unconditionally. Logic, reason, fact and factual truth do not come into it.

Their belief is truth to them. The socialists, christians, muslims and whatever, all believe that they own the truth and are right and that their way is the only path, the only solution to every problem. That they are morally superior.

For us it is more difficult because we attempt to be rationally objective; and ask what is true, what is truth, what is the best solution to each problem. When does doing good become evil? We are not bound by a preconceived system of belief that is to be followed without question and that contains all answers. (Allah's will, God's plan. socialist moral invulnerabilty).

We have to make it up as we go along according to need and the prevailing conditions. I have no system of belief, i just know what I want and how i wish things were. I am a conscious individual, self-centred that wishes harm to no one except those that do me harm. Thus I associate with like-minded people for mutual protection.

I’m not so sure what is right but I know wrong when I see it, according to my perspective.

Systems of belief followed blindly are always wrong.


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Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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