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It takes a nation to protect the nation

Following Alan's instructions on how to get a narrow youtube embed code suitable for 4F (click the 'share' button, then the 'embed' button that comes in the popup, and deselect every option), I thought I'd try to exercise that knowledge.  And we can kick off the threaded viewing too. 

I love how this sketch sets up your expectations, then keeps changing.  It starts off all "chas & dave" and ends up doing Oliver!  I think that this song & dance number is better than the big number in Oliver! and in Meaning of Life, it's just throwaway.  In fact, it's followed by a sombre and very funny sketch about protestants and their ability to use contraceptives.

The Pythons were phenomenally talented together, and much less so apart (with some interesting highlights in their later solo careers).

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This is one of my favourite sketches by Catherine Tate.  It really says very little.  And maybe the humour only really applies to people with friends in the north of England.  I've got a sister-in-law who is like these two - in fact, her whole family are like them.  When I visit them I find them hilarious, and they can't understand why their (very serious) outrage reduces me to fits of laughter.

Will have to show my youngest. he loves cathrine tate. Although he prefers it when shes swearing as nan.

Nan is my favourite Catherine Tate character by a long way.

 I must admit she makes me laugh. My lad is forever playing her on youtube. And he thinks its funny to f and jeff just like her. Grrr. thats the only annoying thing.

What annoys me is the popularity of the Am I Bovvered character.  I can't stand her.  

You should ask your youngest for his favourite sketch.

i'll ask himto select his favorite and i'll post it.

I can imagine though that it would be really irritating to have kids start to pick up the terrible behaviour in Catherine Tate's characters (or the Little Britain characters).  It would drive me spare.

Monty python were mental. John Cleese is the most straight lace bloke you'll ever meet as well.

This Python sketch is all too real.  Whether it's the far-left or nationalist groups in Britain.  They seem to hate their near-rivals more than those who are really opposed to them.

You can try out my instructions in the first post, for making sure you choose the best form for youtube embed codes too :)

Life of brian i can watch again and again. It seems to be a parady of the islamic groups that have sprung in the past 10 yrs


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