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It takes a nation to protect the nation

As if giving over millions in aid wasn't enough so that the Indonesians can build Islamic Schools on our coin (while burning and closing Christian Churches), the government gives air hardware away like it is no big deal, humanitarian uses and Indonesia don't belong in the same sentence, unless it is us giving them aid.

Victoria and more recently Queensland after suffering devastating wildfires and floods got nothing in aid whatsoever from Indonesia, not a cent or any assistance in manpower or logistics, nor did NZ after the Christchurch earthquakes.

However the biggest muslim populated country in the world who lives to our north are happy to take aid money and use it for repressing local non muslims, or for building said Islamic Schools and Mosques.

These planes will be used for about 1 minute as humanitarian transport, and then once out of sight of the mainland of Australia will be dropping troops like Kopassus to round up and exterminate those pesky Christians and non complying muslims who don't subscribe to the governments idea of Islam.

This government here really shits me, they are left leaning communist Fabians and socialists bent on destroying this once great country. The bloody carbon tax came into effect this week on July 1, great breathing out now costs me fucking money.

The sooner these muppets are gone the better, and if Tony Abbott and company do not repeal the carbon taxes and mining taxes killing our competitiveness then there will be a bloody uprising, people can handle no more whatsoever of this shit.

The giving of war planes to a human rights deficient country is criminal in my eyes. The boat loads of illegals coming to Australia all come from Indonesia, nothing is ever done at that end, we send them money and resources and see no results, illegal vessels sink in Indonesian waters, guess who aids them then is obliged to take them to safe haven, yep the Australian navy, and they end up on Christmas Island where they wanted to get to anyway, just itching to get onshore.

Fucking Indo's why we appease and grovel to them is beyond me, governments since the 1960's have kissed arse up there till they can't taste the difference between shit and shoe polish.

Tags: Australian, Govt., Indonesia, Labour, helps, kuffar, suppress

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Dave said

The boat loads of illegals coming to Australia all come from Indonesia, nothing is ever done at that end, we send them money and resources and see no results, illegal vessels sink in Indonesian waters, guess who aids them then is obliged to take them to safe haven, yep the Australian navy, and they end up on Christmas Island where they wanted to get to anyway, just itching to get onshore.

December 16, 2010

UP to 50 asylum-seekers are feared drowned after their boat was smashed on to cliffs at Christmas Island in what authorities believe was a desperate, night-time dash for safety.



December 20, 2011

THE people smuggling syndicate that organised the boat that tragically sank off the coast of East Java at the weekend could have made as much as $1 million from the doomed venture.

About 250 people were on the boat that capsized and, according to testimony from survivors, the Iranians who made up most of the human cargo paid $US7000 each, while the Afghans paid about $US4500.

Assuming the average amount paid was $5000, the venture would have grossed about $1.25 million and, according to the head of Indonesia's people smuggling taskforce, Senior Commissioner Budi Santoso, the overheads for the syndicate would have been low.

Senior Commissioner Budi said the crew, from his past experience, would be paid about 20 million rupiah, or $2300, each. That's the equivalent of almost a year's salary for a poor Indonesian fisherman and significantly more than they used to receive.

There were six crew on the boat, including the captain, who would have made at least double what the underlings earned.

Even so, it's unlikely the total bill for the syndicate would have exceeded $100,000 by much, if at all.


This place where it happened I know very well, as I go there very often. Just a couple of meters from where the photo is taken are a couple of food stalls that sell grilled fresh fish, excellent. It is an estuary just where the boat is, and there is normally very high waves and a treacherous current. They would not have any problem getting this boat into the harbor, but it is not design to get out again

22 Jun, 2012
  • Three people confirmed dead
  • Up to 200 asylum seekers on boat
  • assengers believed to be from Sri Lanka

Authorities are continuing their search for survivors after a boat carrying up to 200 asylum seekers capsized about 200 kilometres north of Christmas Island, with as many as 90 people feared dead or missing.


June 27, 2012,

Up to 125 people have been rescued from a vessel carrying asylum seekers that sank between Indonesia and Christmas Island this morning, sparking a major rescue operation involving merchant and navy vessels and the Royal Australian Air Force.

One person is known to have died.

The rescue emergency, the second in a week involving asylum seekers attempting to reach Christmas Island, was the catalyst for a series of dramatic events including:

- Rescue vessels racing to the wrong area amid reports the boat in distress was just two nautical miles north of Christmas Island.

- A claim from Indonesian authorities that the vessel was sabotaged by those on board.



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