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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Not only did that LBC invertview show this story was far worse than the media were r…"

Joe replied Mar 29, 2015 to Afzal Amin

3 Mar 29, 2015
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"An elderly jewish friend and a chinese friend of mine have both been unemployed at v…"

Joe replied Feb 23, 2015 to The Back-Channels Muslims Use

3 Feb 23, 2015
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"Good fucking riddance"

Joe replied Feb 5, 2015 to Obama and Clegg - Both Lied to Claim Islam is a Religion of Peace.

13 Feb 5, 2015
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"The Trojan Horse problem in Birmingham was known about 20 years ago, but was ignored…"

Joe replied Jan 18, 2015 to The Take-over of State Schools

7 Jan 18, 2015
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"Notice that The Telegraph finally has an article saying muslims must stop their non-…"

Joe replied Jan 13, 2015 to Fiyaz Mughal

23 Mar 18, 2016
Reply by Kinana

"Thanks, sir.  You do a sterling job. I suspect that if the media actually investigat…"

Joe replied Jan 8, 2015 to Fiyaz Mughal

23 Mar 18, 2016
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"I found this letter on a website.  I'll post the letter here - the website owner red…"

Joe replied Jan 6, 2015 to Fiyaz Mughal

23 Mar 18, 2016
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"Shamnesty finally issued a report on slavery in the new Caliphate.  They released it…"

Joe replied Jan 1, 2015 to Hijacked Watchmen: Amnazi (Amnesty) International

14 Jan 27, 2021
Reply by Antony

"This report simply re-asserts what the EHRC figures stated: muslims are far less lik…"

Joe replied Nov 30, 2014 to UK: Muslims living as parasites on the rest of society

4 Nov 30, 2014
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Joe replied Oct 13, 2014 to The Take-over of State Schools

7 Jan 18, 2015
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Muslim Terrorism Count

Thousands of Deadly Islamic Terror Attacks Since 9/11

Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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