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It takes a nation to protect the nation


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Islamic Economics

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Afghanistan: cultural Richness(es)

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Release International Newsletters

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jul 21, 2010. 3 Replies

The Future of Christian Arabs

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United Emirates, Dubai - New Islamic Slavery

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Chrétiens d'Orient

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Comment by Alan Lake on August 30, 2021 at 15:59
Comment by Alan Lake on August 15, 2021 at 2:31
Comment by Alan Lake on October 9, 2018 at 0:51

Just look at these wonderful "Free" Syrian Army (aka Islamist thugs) fighters in action. See how they drive over the wounded soldiers of the Assad's Syrian Army (aka the legitimate ruler of Syria before the USA got involved).

I'm sure Theresa May is already making plans to bring them over here so we too can benefit from their "religion of peace".

Comment by Alan Lake on March 15, 2016 at 18:49
From Arab Spring to 2016 truce: RT’s timeline of 5-year Syrian war
Comment by Alan Lake on July 31, 2014 at 16:27


MMA is huge in Chechnya and Dagestan, where competitive fighting battles with terrorism for kids' attention

Comment by Alan Lake on July 16, 2013 at 16:03

Slideshow of images from the Syrian civil war.

Comment by Alan Lake on February 21, 2013 at 2:24

The meddling Liberal Western governments must be so proud of the mess they've managed to make in Syria, with their oh-so-superior 'humanitarian' project.  Of course, the nasty evil Russians refused to get involved ... but perhaps they had a better idea of what would result?

Comment by Albert Case on September 20, 2011 at 6:03
Comment by Albert Case on August 29, 2011 at 5:46
Comment by Alan Lake on May 31, 2011 at 4:10
Hmm, lots of interesting material there Albert.

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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