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In the second half of August the “Russky Obraz” representatives held a series of meetings with activists of the following Greek groups:

“Golden Dawn” (Χρυσή Αυγή) political party

“Rising Europe” group (Ανατέλλουσα Ευρώπη)

-  ARMA movement (ΕΘΝΟΚΟΙΝΟΤΙΚΟΣ ΔΕΣΜΟΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ)

At the meetings a wide range of topics were discussed, from popular geopolitical concepts in Russia and Greece to similar tendencies in the far-right youth music all over the Europe.

Russians' active participation in the cause of national liberation struggle against the Ottoman yoke is still alive in memory of Greek people. Today, when Greece is ready to become a shield standing in the way of Islamists' expansion to White Europe, but doesn’t receive support in this undertaking among the large EU countries, the eyes of Greeks are again turned on large and snow-covered Russia and its great Russian people.

These meetings have resulted in agreement to cooperate in the information field, mutually support each other in the all-European political process and strengthen international ties between the organizations. Moreover, the “Russky Obraz” activists were given a special honor – official party banner of the “Golden Dawn” was handed over for honorary keeping in Moscow, up to establishing a party in the territory of the Russian Federation.

http://www.right-world.net/en/news/920

 

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'Today, when Greece is ready to become a shield standing in the way of Islamists' expansion to White Europe,...'

 

White Europe?

 

Is the colour of European skin a real issue with the “Russky Obraz” representatives?

if white means Caucasian, then the Turks are also Caucasian, so that's not it.
I suspect Tatyana means Western, to loosely refer to a set of values and a shared cultural history. It's hard enough for a native English speaker to find the right word for some of these groupings, never mind a Russian speaker.
Anyway, I'm just trying to help.

Tatyana knew very well what he meant, the only misunderstanding here, is he is on the wrong site

 “Golden Dawn” (Χρυσή Αυγή) political party Logo 

“Rising Europe” group (Ανατέλλουσα Ευρώπη) Logo

Asked about his group’s allies, Goryachev said that “Russky obraz” has been in contact with the Movement Against Illegal Immigration (DPNI) since 2002 and that relations between the two organizations are ones of “healthy competition.

 Radical Russian Nationalist Says Violence Ahead

Two years ago, on January 19th, 2009, Stanislav Markelov—a human rights defender, lawyer, and founder of the Rule of Law Institute—was gunned down in the middle of the afternoon in downtown Moscow. Anastasia Baburova, a young freelance reporter working for Novaya Gazeta, was fatally shot in the same attack. A well-known and respected figure in Russia’s human rights community, Markelov represented victims of human rights abuses in Chechnya, independent journalists, including Anna Politkovskaya and Igor Domnikov, as well as victims of neo-Nazi violence. Anastasia Baburova wrote about street protests, demonstrations, youth movements, and high-profile court cases against Russian skinheads.

Many of those responsible for the staggering number of hate crimes in Russia over the past six years remain at large, and in the most recent manifestation of mass violence around Manezh Square, nobody will likely be held accountable. But there is some hope that those who murdered Baburova and Markelov’s will be brought to justice. Two ultranationalists affiliated with the “Russian Obraz,” Nikita Tikhonov and Evgeniya Khasis, are standing trial for the murder. Next week, a jury selected for the case will be sworn in. If the trial results in a conviction, the Merkelov and Baburova case will be the first in a long list of high-profile murders of journalists and human rights defenders whose killers have been identified and brought to justice

Shiva

can you tell me more about 'Movement Against Illegal Immigration (DPNI)'?

thanks

Banned by the Moscow City Court on April, 2011

"Two ultranationalists affiliated with the “Russian Obraz,” Nikita Tikhonov and Evgeniya Khasis"

No, Tikhonov was one of the founders of the magazine Russky Obraz and he had nothing to do with the organization.

Dear Shiva, according to the media, everybody on the right, including EDL, are extremists and thugs.



shiva казва:

Two years ago, on January 19th, 2009, Stanislav Markelov—a human rights defender, lawyer, and founder of the Rule of Law Institute—was gunned down in the middle of the afternoon in downtown Moscow. Anastasia Baburova, a young freelance reporter working for Novaya Gazeta, was fatally shot in the same attack. A well-known and respected figure in Russia’s human rights community, Markelov represented victims of human rights abuses in Chechnya, independent journalists, including Anna Politkovskaya and Igor Domnikov, as well as victims of neo-Nazi violence. Anastasia Baburova wrote about street protests, demonstrations, youth movements, and high-profile court cases against Russian skinheads.

Many of those responsible for the staggering number of hate crimes in Russia over the past six years remain at large, and in the most recent manifestation of mass violence around Manezh Square, nobody will likely be held accountable. But there is some hope that those who murdered Baburova and Markelov’s will be brought to justice. Two ultranationalists affiliated with the “Russian Obraz,” Nikita Tikhonov and Evgeniya Khasis, are standing trial for the murder. Next week, a jury selected for the case will be sworn in. If the trial results in a conviction, the Merkelov and Baburova case will be the first in a long list of high-profile murders of journalists and human rights defenders whose killers have been identified and brought to justice

Tatyana

thanks for this info.  to ban an organisation is a serious matter.  what were the reasons given?  I assume that the government does not object to people wanting to support the law against illegal immigration?!

Tatyana said:

Banned by the Moscow City Court on April, 2011



Tatyana казва:

"Two ultranationalists affiliated with the “Russian Obraz,” Nikita Tikhonov and Evgeniya Khasis"

No, Tikhonov was one of the founders of the magazine Russky Obraz and he had nothing to do with the organization.

Dear Shiva, according to the media, everybody on the right, including EDL, are extremists and thugs.

Firstly we are not discussing the EDL

Secondly I am banned from the EDL and have no reason to support then

Thirdly I detest nazis, be them British, Russian male or female

So according to you, Tikhonov was one of the founders of the magazine,  well it featured on the Russky Obraz website, and Ilya Goryachev, a Russky Obraz coordinator, it is also reported that Goryachev was also the magazine’s editor.

Above is an image from their website, promoting the magazine

Any way from what we see from the web site they are nazis, and do very little to hide the fact.

You are nazis, not patriots, a true patriot will never glorify an ideology that caused the death of 28,000,000 million russians



Kinana казва:

Tatyana

thanks for this info.  to ban an organisation is a serious matter.  what were the reasons given?  I assume that the government does not object to people wanting to support the law against illegal immigration?!

Tatyana said:

Banned by the Moscow City Court on April, 20121

 

Just to expand what the above commentator has written 

Here is a rough translation a statement from the General Prosecutor’s office

Moscow court at the suit of the public prosecutor has banned inter-regional public organization "Movement Against Illegal Immigration" The Moscow City Court upheld the full statement of the prosecutor of the capital on the recognition of inter-regional public organization "Movement Against Illegal Immigration" ("Movement Against Illegal Immigration"), an extremist and banned its activities. Verification of compliance with legislation in the activities of this organization held in Moscow prosecutor's office on behalf of the General Procuracy of the Russian Federation. The review collected evidence that the goals and activities of this association focused on the conduct of extremist activity that involved a violation of human rights and freedoms and civil rights, personal injury or health of citizens, society and state. Considering the above, the prosecutor of Moscow, Yuri Semin sent to the Moscow City Court a declaration recognizing the interregional public association "The Movement Against Illegal Immigration" extremist and banning its activities and decided to suspend the activities of the above association pending trial. The court found the prosecutor's demand justified and made the decision to ban the activities of the association. It should be noted that participants in the movement have repeatedly prosecuted for the crimes of an extremist. So, January 21, 2011 Protvino Moscow City Court of the head of the local branch of the movement Ilya Boydakov convicted of Part 1 of Art. 282.1 of the Criminal Code (organizing an extremist community), Part 2, Art. 282 (inciting hatred or enmity and humiliation of human dignity). The court found that at the direction of the preliminary investigation Boydakova persons attacked the citizens of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Vietnam, causing bodily injury. Dorogomilovsky sentence the district court in Moscow on May 28, 2009 and leader of the Movement Against Illegal Immigration director Alexander Potkin (Belov) convicted of a crime under Part 1, Art. 282.

 

 

Recent activities of DPNI members gave the court the ammunition to do so. In January, a group of DPNI members were tried for beating and killing immigrants in the Moscow suburb of Protivno. Ilya Boidakov, the leader of Protivno DPNI, pleaded guilty in exchange for a lighter sentence of five years in the slammer. The remaning members await sentencing. In December 2010, Ivan Mikheev, DPNI’s local leader in Kirov, was convicted along with two others to probation under Article 282: “inciting hatred, emnity, and humiliation of human dignity, and the public support for terrorism.” And lastly, Nina Zenkova, a DPNI activist in Tula, was convicted of distributing extremist literature and inciting hatred. And who could forget that DPNI’s leader Alexander Belov was jailed for six months in 2009 under Article 282.

What really brought DPNI under the state’s microscope, however, was the Manezh riots four months ago.


The government objects of course. We have no real regulation of migration process and the business lobby (first of all in construction) benefit from this

 

 


Kinana казва:

Tatyana

thanks for this info.  to ban an organisation is a serious matter.  what were the reasons given?  I assume that the government does not object to people wanting to support the law against illegal immigration?!

Tatyana said:

Banned by the Moscow City Court on April, 2011

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