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Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue - 15 girls died in the fire on Monday.

Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress,…

Started by Herman Van KeerLatest Reply

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more rape by saudis

Need more info http://www.siotw.org/news_english.item.1193/saudi-prince-kidnaps-rapes-and-murders-girl-a%EF%BF%BD%EF%BF%BD-dumps-her-body-

Started by Herman Van Keer

1 Jan 20, 2016
Reply by Antony

Lashes for 75 year old woman

A Saudi Arabian court has sentenced a 75-year-old Syrian woman to 40 lashes, four months imprisonment and deportation from the kingdom fo…

Started by Herman Van Keer

7 Oct 13, 2015
Reply by paul collings

Papio Hamadryas

“ THEY SHALL BECOME MONKEYS..” The Quran says the following about some people who have really earned God’ s anger. I believe this verse ref…

Started by shiva

2 Sep 21, 2012
Reply by shiva

23% children raped; between 1/4 and 1/2 of students indulge in homosexuality

http://www.translatingjihad.com/2012/02/saudi-study-nearly-quarter-of-children.html Video translated from clip posted on YouTube in Decembe…

Started by Joe

1 May 11, 2012
Reply by Alan Lake

Saudi Arabia: Morals police arrest Colombian soccer player for having tattoo of Jesus on his arm

Saudi Arabia: Morals police arrest Colombian soccer player for having tattoo of Jesus on his arm Pino: Immoral In Muslim countries, non-Mu…

Started by Alan Lake

0 Oct 15, 2011

Islamic Racism [and severe Discrimination against Women] in Marriage(s)

Local press - facilitate marriage of Saudi women to non-Saudis By AMAL ZAHID | AL-WATAN Published: Mar 15, 2010 00:33 Updated: Mar 15, 2010…

Started by Indoeuropean

0 Apr 22, 2011

Living in Secret in Saudi Arabia

'Some years ago in the American school, a Santa Claus was almost arrested but he managed to escape through a window. It is prohibited.'   Z…

Started by Kinana

0 Apr 6, 2011

De l'Excision à la Traite d'Esclaves blanches en Arabie Saudite

[ http://instinctdesurvie.blogspot.com/2006/12/de-lexcision-et-de-la-traite-des.html ]   De l'excision et de la traite des blanches en Arab…

Started by Indoeuropean

0 Dec 29, 2010

Stones from the Glass House of Saud

Stones from the Glass House of Saud by Aaron Eitan Meyer  •  Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 am http://www.islamist-watch.org/blog/2010/04/stones-fro

Started by Kinana

0 Apr 19, 2010

Saudi police 'stopped' fire rescue - 15 girls died in the fire on Monday.

Saudi Arabia's religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress,…

Started by Herman Van Keer

7 Apr 8, 2010
Reply by OldWarDog

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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