It takes a nation to protect the nation
It Is Not Over
Response to enlightnen Alan about Simon Dengs comment in his speech
"On January 9 of 2011 South Sudan became an independent state.
For South Sudanese, that means continuation of oppression, brutalization, demonization, Islamization, Arabization and enslavement."
I can't make sense of this. Shouldn't 'continuation of' be 'ending of'?
https://4freedoms.ning.com/group/uk/forum/topics/saying-how-it-is-w0w
In comparison to other religions, the Islamic religion would be regarded as the fastest growing religion in the world, especially in African nations. Through this growth, our blessed country ‘the Republic of South Sudan’ has now become a paradise and a safe heaven for Islamic expansion before and even after the independence on the 9th of July this year.
Whilst people of South Sudan have recently escaped all forms of abuse and humiliation under the Islamic united Sudan, the Islamic religion remains a grave threat to social, political and economic stability of the Republic South Sudan. The contemporary growing number of the so-called South Sudanese Muslim communities in the Republic of South Sudan is an insult to South Sudan national integrity, identity, pride of South Sudanese citizens, and also a conduit that Arabs can use to infiltrate into South Sudan either now or in the future. As our history proves, the growth of Islamic religion will potentially cause a quantity of practical challenges in South Sudan economically, socially and politically.
Although universal rights are guaranteed in the constitution of the Republic of South Sudan including the right of worship, this concept of “universal” rights needs to be considered over the precedence of the ‘individual’ rights to freedom of religion. Hence, when religious freedom and expression infringes on the existence of others as Islam disapproves the existence of others, South Sudanese who are concern about their national identity and stability should re-think in allowing Islamic religion which has historically been a cause for our suffering to be practice in their hardly won country.
Tags: Zchristian, Zjihad, Zsudan
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Permalink Reply by shiva on
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Now South Sudan finally became an independent state but still struggles with military conflicts within their territory. Especially in the borderland of the two provinces Bahr el Ghazal and Greater Upper Nile towards Sudan attacks on South Sudan’s military as well as on civilians are still the order of the day.
A few days ago, the 29th October 2011, the town Mayom which lays in the home area of the SSLA’s commander Peter Catdet got attacked by South Sudan rebels. This attack in which course at least 75 people got killed, both from South Sudan’s army, civilians and rebels from the SSLA, is the latest reported military activity in the area.But what is the SSLA actually? Where does it take its stand? The SSLA is a newly formed rebel group in South Sudan and stands for South Sudan Liberation Army. The group is under the command of Peter Catdet. He for his part is a senior commander of the southern Sudanese army. According to mcclatchydc.com he stated his motives for his fight against the South Sudanese government in a statement in this year’s April: He accuses the government of tribal nepotism, corruption, mismanagement of the military as well as undemocratic rule. The SSLA understands itself as a liberation movement that is supposed to free South Sudan from its current government. During its military activity the SSLA got accused to receive arms supply from the North. Juba government directly blames Khartoum of active support of the rebel movement.
In an interview with BBC’s James Copnall in Khartoum, Sudan, current SSLA’s leader Major General Bapiny Montyuil talks about the arms supply of the SSLA. He mentions both South Sudanese and Europeans as arms suppliers. In terms of the fight against Juba government he declares the large oil fields in South Sudan as a possible target of their attacks. In his point of view Juba government uses the money coming from oil production for buying weapons and for financing its army. Moreover he states his main motive for his fight as living in freedom and starting a peaceful life in a new founded country, in a free South Sudan.
http://www.eufrika.org/wordpress/2011/11/portrait-the-ssla-south-su....
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MONDAY 7 NOVEMBER 2011
Bashir declares “liberation” of Kurmuk, threatens South Sudan
November 6, 2011 (KHARTOUM) – The Sudanese president Omer Al-Bashir on Sunday warned that his country was running out of patience in the face of “continued provocations” by South Sudan, saying that Khartoum is ready to return to war.
http://www.sudantribune.com/Bashir-declares-liberation-of,40649
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Permalink Reply by Alan Lake on
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What a terrible mess.
It seems a bit like the India-Pakistan partition fiasco all over again. Pakistan becomes 99% Muslim after eradicating all the Hindus then threatens India from outside; while the Muslim proportion of democratic India just thrives and grows, and threatens India from inside.
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