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Kuffarphobia in Switzerland


Kuffarphobia in Switzerland

To fight for the 4 Freedoms in Switzerland

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A bold speech by Swiss MP Oskar Freysinger (see

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Swiss MP

Started by Herman Van Keer Jan 18, 2016. 0 Replies

The swiss cross

Started by paul collings Oct 16, 2012. 0 Replies

Switzerland will punish FGMutilators

Started by Indoeuropean. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 1, 2011. 1 Reply

General Psychology

Started by Indoeuropean Jun 10, 2010. 0 Replies

CounterJihad Manifesto

Started by Indoeuropean Jun 9, 2010. 0 Replies

Honor (Horror) Killing(s)

Started by Indoeuropean Jun 9, 2010. 0 Replies

Muslim Brotherhood

Started by Indoeuropean Jun 9, 2010. 0 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 12, 2017 at 15:12

Children born of foreign parents should have the nationality of their parents.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on November 3, 2016 at 8:50
Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 16, 2016 at 18:13

I really love Switzerland.

Comment by Alan Lake on June 16, 2016 at 10:35

Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU

Comment by Philip Smeeton on June 6, 2016 at 12:11

This is socialism at its worst and most stupid- full pay whether you work or not.

The socialist principle of everyone getting paid the exact same amount no matter what their job is or how hard they work just is not in touch with reality it assumes that everyone can behave responsibly and is willing to contribute and work as hard as they can for the common good; and be honest and nice.

What's happening in Venezuela right now should be enough to convert socialists to capitalism, it won't though because socialism has nothing to do with reality, it is idealism and ideas that only work in special circumstances.

I'm not saying people should become homeless or starve, but there have to be incentives to work and achieve. I resent paying taxes, not because I do not believe in social justice, but because I get no say in determining what tax-payers money is used for. I would not give one penny to foreign criminals and parasites, but I would love to contribute towards one-way tickets for them,out of here.

In Venezuela people are homeless and starving due to socialism. Unfettered capitalism can of cause cause suffering, but what we need is common sense and practical solutions and a politic that allows this.

Comment by Alan Lake on June 1, 2016 at 22:07

Merkel was on the historic first train through the tunnel. Was she thinking "My 2 million Muslim rapefugees could have built this"?

Perhaps Switzerland will become the last outpost of Germanic efficiency, and excellence in engineering.
Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 28, 2016 at 8:58

"Switzerland votes in a fresh referendum Sunday on whether foreign criminals should be automatically deported even for minor offences, after a far-right push to tighten the rules."

Switzerland looks like a good place to live.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on October 19, 2015 at 9:52

When there is genuine democracy in a country, the voice of the people is heard.

Comment by Antony on October 11, 2012 at 6:01

Swiss prepare for mass civil & muslim unrest ;

Comment by Antony on July 9, 2012 at 10:44

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom of Movement
The government can import new voters - except where that changes the political demographics (i.e. electoral fraud by means of immigration)
4. SP Freedom from Over-spending
People should not be charged for government systems which they reject, and which give them no benefit. For example, the government cannot pass a debt burden across generations (25 years).
An additional Freedom from Religion is be deducible by equal application of law: "Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight - except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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