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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"20 Generals warn of coming civil war in France.  Co-signed by 100 senior officers an…"

Joe replied Apr 26 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

57 Apr 26
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"So 450 Islamic groups are boycotting governmental review of Prevent programme becaus…"

Joe replied Mar 17 to "It's just a tiny minority of extremists" - the lies and fallacies

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"Manchester Inquiry - management of venue to blame, but Islam is blameless. https://w…"

Joe replied Jan 26 to Terror against Pop Concerts - collected articles

7 Jan 26
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"People don't hate just Nazism. They are encouraged to hate Nazis."

Joe replied Dec 1, 2018 to Will They Poison the Water?

28 Dec 1, 2018
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"Jihadi arrested in plot to poison water supply. https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/11/i…"

Joe replied Nov 30, 2018 to Will They Poison the Water?

28 Dec 1, 2018
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"Another French parliamentarian has criticised Emperor Macron, saying that he is beha…"

Joe replied Nov 17, 2018 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"Going on for 6 years since this discussion was started on 4F.    A socialist ministe…"

Joe replied Nov 17, 2018 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

57 Apr 26
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"Another French official acknowledges that civil war is imminent. https://blogs.spect…"

Joe replied Oct 18, 2018 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"I was going to post something about the daily stabbings in France.  But by the time…"

Joe replied Sep 12, 2018 to France Will be the First to Acknowledge the Civil War with Islam

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"Carfentanil (and less toxic cognates) are on sale in the UK. This Cardiff drug-deale…"

Joe replied Aug 12, 2018 to Will They Poison the Water?

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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