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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"The Times, 1935. Imam of London Mosque objects to comparison of islam and bolshevism…"

Joe replied Feb 10, 2016 to "Islam is the religion of peace" - archaeology of a trope

13 Mar 12, 2016
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"A lot of things in that post, but I'll just pull out this one. Another thing which P…"

Joe replied Feb 8, 2016 to The Sunni Theory of Government

5 Feb 8, 2016
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"Just to add to my pet theme. I was last night reading Sir Charles Petrie's 400pp His…"

Joe replied Feb 8, 2016 to The Sunni Theory of Government

5 Feb 8, 2016
Reply by Alan Lake

"Excellent summary over at Gates of Vienna Islam, Lying, and Sacred Misdirection Po…"

Joe replied Dec 9, 2015 to Islam's doctrines of deception

12 Dec 9, 2015
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"The derivative trade of war is a warrior ; and the guerrilla , guerrilla . Instead t…"

Joe replied Nov 17, 2015 to How Christianity and the West were infected by Islam - by Emmet Scott

2 Nov 17, 2015
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"This is a really good analysis. It is streets ahead of anything I've seen in the Bri…"

Joe replied Aug 2, 2015 to Taking Statements of Islamic-Fascism Seriously: Hizb ut Tahir's Manifesto

63 Aug 2, 2015
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"HuT saying Geert Wilders slanders islam & the founder of islamic terrorism. Ye…"

Joe replied Jul 30, 2015 to Taking Statements of Islamic-Fascism Seriously: Hizb ut Tahir's Manifesto

63 Aug 2, 2015
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"It seems possible that it would serve as a more convincing visual argument if the ve…"

Joe replied May 28, 2015 to Colour coding the Koran

20 Jul 2, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

"America's 1st gay imam.  Of course, there's deceit going on.  He says there's nothin…"

Joe replied May 22, 2015 to Islam's doctrines of deception

12 Dec 9, 2015
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"Being the contrarian I am, I don't see the point in colour-coding the koran. We need…"

Joe replied Apr 29, 2015 to Colour coding the Koran

20 Jul 2, 2015
Reply by Alan Lake

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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