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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Maajid Nawaz is not alone is perpetuating the confusion Cross post http://4freedoms.…"

Kinana replied Sep 6, 2021 to Maajid Nawaz on Islam vs Islamism?

15 Sep 7, 2021
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"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50071142 Inspectors also said ''teachers do not…"

Kinana replied Oct 24, 2019 to Muslim woman beats girl of 10 'for prayer'

8 Oct 24, 2019
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""Slaps, fists, punishments, humiliation, pulling of the ears, shoves. Ending with on…"

Kinana replied Oct 2, 2019 to Muslim woman beats girl of 10 'for prayer'

8 Oct 24, 2019
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" So many good questions.  The answers are obvious, but unstated."

Kinana replied Jun 30, 2019 to Sri Lankan Terror Easter 2019

4 Jun 30, 2019
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"This piece shows how irrelevant 'moderate and liberal Muslims' like this author are.…"

Kinana replied May 14, 2019 to Sri Lankan Terror Easter 2019

4 Jun 30, 2019
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"Tarek Fatah‏Verified account @TarekFatah  SriLankan suicide bomber: “Even if a Ka…"

Kinana replied Apr 25, 2019 to Sri Lankan Terror Easter 2019

4 Jun 30, 2019
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"Re Muslim rape gangs in the UK http://4freedoms.com/group/children/forum/topics/musl…"

Kinana replied Nov 28, 2018 to Islam: A Culture of Rape

1 Nov 28, 2018
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"From the notice about them selling poppies i read this: MUSLIMS spent their day sell…"

Kinana replied Oct 23, 2018 to Ahmadiyya Muslims

6 Oct 23, 2018
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"Comment by Tony Ashworth Prepare to wince - Muslim group sell Remembrance Sunday Pop…"

Kinana replied Oct 23, 2018 to Ahmadiyya Muslims

6 Oct 23, 2018
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"https://christianaction.org/blog_management/our-views/fed-court-rules-favor-islamic-…"

Kinana replied May 20, 2018 to Propaganda vs Pedagogy: The Teaching of Islam to Children

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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