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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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" ‘Erdoganistan’: Pers…"

Alan Lake replied Jun 1, 2016 to Erdogan: Europe's favourite gangster

6 May 23, 2017
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"Where does the money come from? Erdogan children’s immeasurable wealth questioned by…"

Alan Lake replied May 9, 2016 to Erdogan: Europe's favourite gangster

6 May 23, 2017
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"Turkey President Erdogan files complaint over satirical poem by German comedian http…"

Alan Lake replied Apr 14, 2016 to Erdogan: Europe's favourite gangster

6 May 23, 2017
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"Erdogan's threats:  (It's become obvious, a few months too late as usual, that this…"

Alan Lake replied Apr 1, 2016 to Erdogan: Europe's favourite gangster

6 May 23, 2017
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"What on earth are our so-called leaders thinking of?  Can they not have noticed the…"

Alan Lake replied Apr 12, 2013 to Turkey Has 90 B61 Thermonuclear Bombs for Aircraft Delivery

1 Apr 12, 2013
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"That's a gem, Anthony, how did you find it? Well, now we know how you spend lazy Sun…"

Alan Lake replied Jun 24, 2012 to READ MY HIPS

3 Jun 25, 2012
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"That must be the same Harun Yahya that Richard Dawkins was railing against when I he…"

Alan Lake replied Jan 20, 2012 to Is Turkey Using the Courts to Silence Critics? - Time Magazine

4 Jan 20, 2012
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"Thanks for the video Paul.  The final statement smells of cover up. How much do you…"

Alan Lake replied Oct 16, 2011 to FT: Erdogan's bodyguards beat up UN Security Staff!

3 Oct 16, 2011
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"Constantinople - the Theodossian Walls"

Alan Lake replied Jul 5, 2011 to The Fall of Constantinople / Istanbul

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"Another hypocrisy in this incident is that some of the flotilla boats left from Turk…"

Alan Lake replied Jun 6, 2010 to Turkey's part in "Jihad in Humanitarian cloaks"

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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