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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"More from Hanged at Durham it was to be her second marriage. Her first husband had d…"

shiva replied Apr 15, 2015 to Racist Attacks on White People

116 Oct 5
Reply by Alan Lake

"In my last post there is mention of a Somali sailor, Mahmoud Hussein Mattan, who had…"

shiva replied Apr 15, 2015 to Racist Attacks on White People

116 Oct 5
Reply by Alan Lake

"This post may not be a racist attack, but it is worth a mention Newport Stabbing Mys…"

shiva replied Apr 15, 2015 to Racist Attacks on White People

116 Oct 5
Reply by Alan Lake

"More from Geller Anyway, EDL leader Tommy Robinson has now jumped ship and rushed to…"

shiva replied Dec 3, 2013 to Tommy and the EDL Mark II?

22 Jan 12, 2014
Reply by Kinana

"I take it they are not Christian, Tarik, Ali sounds more like the are shiite moslems…"

shiva replied Oct 25, 2013 to Leaving Paradise

14 Oct 26, 2013
Reply by Antony

"Maybe they do not eat their own fish, due to their not being any. Because the Lampe…"

shiva replied Oct 20, 2013 to Leaving Paradise

14 Oct 26, 2013
Reply by Antony

"It is quite clear that Spencer doesnt know about the Quillion"

shiva replied Oct 9, 2013 to Is this the end of EDL

69 Jan 27, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"PAM, both of us have come up against the nazi elements in the EDL, but we stood up a…"

shiva replied Oct 8, 2013 to Is this the end of EDL

69 Jan 27, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

" What I mean is that there is nothing on the EDL site, which I regard as extremely d…"

shiva replied Oct 8, 2013 to Is this the end of EDL

69 Jan 27, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

"Why break the news here http://www.quilliamfoundation.org/press-releases/quilliam-fa…"

shiva replied Oct 8, 2013 to Is this the end of EDL

69 Jan 27, 2017
Reply by Alan Lake

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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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