It takes a nation to protect the nation
15 Guilty Men - Revisited
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilty_Men
Can you imagine any of our politicians or journalists anonymously writing chapters to a book like this now? I can't.
Who should go into the updated version of the version of this book for the UK?
- Cameron for saying in 2005 "islamic extremists are Nazis", then doing nothing about them when he got into power.
- Nick Clegg for lying about the koran, just days after Lee Rigby's beheading
- Theresa May for banning Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from entering the UK. And for this: http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/09/why-is-theresa-may...
- Tony Blair for taking us into the Iraq war, instead of dealing with the problem at home
- Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, for his defence of sharia law http://rowanwilliams.archbishopofcanterbury.org/articles.php/1135/s...
- Weyman Bennett/Martin Smith for the SWP choosing to ally itself with islamic fascism whilst claiming the title of "anti-fascist" for themselves
- Thatcher for leading a government that did nothing but reward muslims, when they marched round England saying they would kill Salman Rushdie
- Sophie Gilliat-Ray, for her book "Muslims in Britain" saying nothing about the slave-taking raids which went on long before any muslims actually came to live in Britain. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Muslims-Britain-Sophie-Gilliat-Ray/dp/05215...
- Karen Armstrong - for every book on islam she ever wrote
Other nominations?
Obviously, the US, France, etc. would need their own version of this book.
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Cameron ensuring his place as Numero Uno of The Guilty Men.
"Islamic State has Nothing To Do With Islam". (Is our NTDWI meme catching on? Is Cameron sending the nation a coded message?)
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/david-cameron-on-eid-al-adha-isla...
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Even as late as June 2014 Cameron was saying "islamic extremists are fascists". http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10910863/David-Cameron-Isl...
Yet despite his (apparent) knowledge of the fascistic fundamentals of islam, he's done nothing but protect islam from criticism. -
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