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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Latest Activity: Jan 27

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Dec 20, 2022. 488 Replies

Racist Attacks on White People

Started by Joe. Last reply by Kinana Jun 26, 2022. 116 Replies

prevent strategy

Started by paul collings. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Jun 23, 2022. 22 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Apr 30, 2022. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jan 14, 2022. 6 Replies

Victor Davis Hanson: collected articles

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Dec 30, 2021. 24 Replies

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Nov 21, 2021. 6 Replies

The Persecution of Tommy Robinson

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Joe Mar 8, 2021. 185 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 12:50

Albania is the only Muslim country in Europe and Macedonia has a Muslim terrorist problem. They will both be economic burdens.

Comment by Tony Ashworth on February 8, 2020 at 11:33

UK out, Albania in: Is EU 'compensating' for Brexit by
expanding into the Balkans or countering an
imaginary 'Russian threat'?
The rats in Brussels scrambling to try and get even
smallest win before the next exit and let future
administration sort it out. They're kicking the can down the

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 8, 2020 at 8:43

Well we are not survivalist lunatics Heather. Just people that interpret the news and are concerned. But in the face of a pandemic what can anyone really do? We can prolong our lives for a few weeks. Some survive disease, I guess that's like winning the lottery. The lucky ones, at least here, are the experienced hunters and those that already are growing their own food. My talent is that I can live alone easily, I was born that way. I have told my children they must stock in food because if the disease crosses the border there will be panic. I just do not have enough money to buy supplies for them. I usually pack things like flour in plastic bags that I can knot tight, because I have seen maggots in corn products that have been left open, moths? The garbage I will burn. There will be riots and looting in the big cities but let's hope it doesn't come to that. We cannot be concerned what others think, each must do as he sees fit, we are not harming anyone. You can fill empty bottles with tap water now and stow them away.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on February 7, 2020 at 19:07

Only other things I thought of today Philip, were facial cleansing pads. They are cheap and they keep, should water  get cut off, They do help with cleansing, and at least feeling fresher. Rolled oats are good too. I prefer oatmeat myself, but what a great excuse  to make biscuits with, if they aren't needed. Going to add a couple of boxes of wine and a bottle of vodka too. Can't think what I can possibly do with those if not needed hahah.

I am making my family laugh with my preparations. I'm laughing too, whilst remembering that he who laughs last, often laughs longest.  I will be more than happy to be the butt of their jokes for years to come, if none of these supplies are needed.  

ps Good idea to have plenty of plastic bags too. Rubbish quickly stinks if there is no refuse collection

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 7, 2020 at 17:46

Both Hitler and especially Stalin just let people starve to death by the million.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 7, 2020 at 17:44

Good luck Heather, Better safe than sorry, I'm buying things as they occur to me, today I bought a saucepan with metal handles so it can be used over a fire and a bucket shaped grill that fits it perfectly and can take charcoal  or bits of wood as fuel. Having got in the basics I am buying chocolate and candy and jam and tasty stuff so that the diet is not boring. Finding ways to avoid boredom are necessary too if this drags on too long. Hopefully we can laugh about it all soon, but at least we have done what we can, and sooner or later something like this can happen again. I have thought now and then what it would be like, especially in huge overcrowded cities, if the food supply dried up. Millions of the casualties of WWII simply died of starvation.

Comment by Heather Gilbert on February 7, 2020 at 14:12

I've got my supplies and am avoiding cities wherever possible.  So now we learn that anyone who has been in contact with the businessman with coronovirus should call 101....Slight problem there...They won't release his name. The ignorant idiot also took himself off to A+E before being placed in quarantine. Just how many people has he been in contact with?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 5, 2020 at 17:34

There is only one solution and that is to deport them to country of origin, they are obviously not loyal to Britain and the British people. But who is going to do the job. Take an oath of allegiance or get out, break the oath of allegiance and be sent out. If no country will have them, send them to South Georgia Island in the Antarctic Ocean.

Comment by Kinana on February 5, 2020 at 16:22

"Met Police's Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu says officers can't trail all terror suspects because there are too many"

So Mr Policeman what is to be done?  How will you protect and serve?

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 5, 2020 at 15:18

These people display an ignorance of global human history and an ignorance of the reality of the way human beings of every race have behaved and treated each other. They take a minute part of thousands of years of history and the abuse of one set of human beings by another. The genocides of Africa and the many thousands of human sacrifices that the Mayans carried out then we have the millions that Muslims have murdered and enslaved. - the list is endless.

What was one of the characteristics of the psychopath? always playing the victim card, and in this case constantly the race card. They are stupid and ignorant and their hatred of whiteness is racist. Instead of complaining they should go and live in a country run by people of their own race.

My message: "Fuck off back to where you came from!"


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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