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Kuffarphobia in UK


Kuffarphobia in UK

For all those who are fighting to protect the 4 Freedoms in the UK

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Useful Websites

English Defence League   (NB the authority for EDL statements is their website, not 4F)

Stop Islamisation Of Europe (SIOE) which is also on facebook

  • We emerge from the social fog of multiculturalism to see a landscape totally unrecognisable and more dangerous, like coming out of a bomb shelter and seeing the debris - Kinana
  • Unhealthy immigration happens - and they do nothing; integration fails - and they invent multiculturalism; multiculturalism breeds ethnic conflict - and they waste billions patching up a society that's falling apart. They never get to the root of the matter - Philip Smeeton
  • Always attributing incompetence to malice leads to paranoia.  Never attributing incompetence to malice leads to gullibility -Joe

Discussion Forum

Britain First

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 2. 4 Replies

UK Police submitting to mob rule

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 4 Replies

Patriotic Alternative

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake May 28. 3 Replies

Why The UK Will Collapse

Started by Joe. Last reply by Antony Oct 16, 2020. 475 Replies

Gold Wars

Started by Joe. Last reply by Alan Lake Jun 11, 2020. 5 Replies

We Stand with the Victims

Started by C J Bernard. Last reply by paul collings Mar 19, 2020. 1 Reply

The Police Will Not Protect You

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 11, 2020. 2 Replies

Islam and Firefighters

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Feb 26, 2020. 24 Replies

Why have the white British left London?

Started by Joe. Last reply by Philip Smeeton Feb 5, 2020. 49 Replies

Brexit and Islam

Started by Kinana. Last reply by Alan Lake Sep 11, 2019. 12 Replies

Hate not Hope: the Pushback Begins

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Kinana Mar 22, 2019. 5 Replies

UK Police: Political Bias & Corruption

Started by Alan Lake. Last reply by Alan Lake Mar 18, 2019. 3 Replies

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Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2020 at 20:30

I seem to remember a recent news article where a woman got away from an attacker by telling him she had corona virus. Anyone gives me trouble I'll start coughing on them Paul, seriously.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2020 at 20:23

I avoid people like the plague now Joe.

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2020 at 20:19

Honey, rosehip tea, cod liver oil capsules, long life orange juice, artificial milk, dried and tinned foods, jam, pickles and clean water, soap and that sort of stuff, any tools you think you might need. Think it through and buy things as they occur to you. 

The food shops were quickly emptied in north Italy. Worst case scenario there will be riots, looting and lawlessness, so think security, bolts on doors and do not open the door unless you know who is there and never at night.

Had I written this a few months ago I would have rightfully been regarded to be a loony, but now the situation looks serious. How can you protect yourself and those you care for. Right now advise them to buy food and fill bottles with water.

Better safe than sorry, and I do not feel like a fool, everything I buy is useful to have and can be used or eaten later if we survive and life gets back to the way it is now. Which is not normal, but at least we only had terrorists and criminals to fear.

Comment by paul collings on February 25, 2020 at 20:08

In Iran the deputy health minister has been diagnosed with Covid 19.

He was on telly coughing and sweating with a load of Iranian officials. 

People are trying to find out if he's been in contact with the Ayatollah.... Allah K ows best. 

Comment by paul collings on February 25, 2020 at 19:40

If you're a puplic figure speaking against government policies. Carry a phone with your solicitors number. 

Technology is great,  but will be used against you. And if you won't allow yourself to be destroyed voluntarily, then be assured a law exists that will do it for you. 

Anybody caught by the HM police (for thought crimes) should say they've got Covid and then cough all over their electricals. 

For a virus that's discribed as being no more harmful than the flu, it certainly seems to scare the people in charge. 

Whole cities shut down, boarders closed (racist) Airlines grounded, people being told to self isolate (without full pay?) the flu never caused this much fuss. Well not since the Spanish flu, and we know what happened there.

So if the police ask you to open your phone, sneeze on it, then self isolate it in a river. Or under a heavy foot. If there's no fancy named  virus going around maybe change your relience on a smart tracker. 

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2020 at 14:17

This Thursday, Paul Golding is due to appear at Westminster Magistrate's Court to plead NOT GUILTY of an offence under the Terrorism Act 2000.
All Paul did was refuse to let the police ransack his mobile phone and laptop at Heathrow Airport!

At least apple are useful for one thing. The police cannot get into your devices. Unless you are like me and have to carry your pins with you in your wallet because you cannot remember them.

In this fight I fully support Paul.

Comment by Antony on February 25, 2020 at 14:07

Corona Virus could be on the verge of a worldwide breakout ;

Comment by Philip Smeeton on February 25, 2020 at 11:11
Coronavirus crisis: Tenerife hotel on lockdown as outbreak hits holiday hotspot.
Coronavirus map LIVE: Outbreak spreads like fire - Middle East, Europe and US cases MAPPED.
People are still flying and going on holiday. Not very wise.
They are not saying anything about people getting the virus and then getting well again. Are they then safe or can a new virus mutation attack them?
Any thoughts Joe ?

Comment by paul collings on February 24, 2020 at 15:09

The markets are starting to react. Stock's down, gold up. 

I'm sure all the Tree huggers and Tapioca eaters are living it. People are refusing to fly. Summer holiday bookings are falling. 

This  virus will cause a lot of trouble until a vaccine is found. As this could be a year away, and as Heather says the chance the virus will mutate could push a vaccine further away, the trouble will be far reaching. 

Production of most of the products that drive world economy ould be halted. This will force a bit more quantitive easing. Can the world afford more of this free money.

Were only a few weeks into this crisis, and if a pandemic is declared by the Who, then we're gonna need lots of free money. Or do as the anti capitalist mob want. Just give it up. Things will surely get better all on there own. 

Comment by Heather Gilbert on February 24, 2020 at 12:36

This is a bit worrying:  

A virus will always mutate. Its what they do, because the RNA replication process is error prone. A problem we face is that as the number of infected increase, the number of mutation opportunities likewise increase. Some of those will result in worse transmission characteristics and that virus variant will fizzle out, but some might do the exact opposite and the virus with that mutation will thrive. Last time I spotted a comment on this (and I can't now find the link) I was seeing the number of variants in low 20's. I'm guessing with 80K plus infected, the variant count will be substantially higher.

Virus behaviour is a bit like a search engine in this regard. The more chances it has, the more likely it is that it will stumble onto a real improvement... from its point of view.


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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