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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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"Obama attacked over NY mosque By Daniel Dombey in Washington Published: August 15 20…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 16, 2010 to The 9/11 Victory Mosque

14 Sep 23, 2010
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"I was wrong above, Alain Wagner calls the mosques "Town Halls". Since they are in co…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 16, 2010 to The 9/11 Victory Mosque

14 Sep 23, 2010
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"Precisely. I like to copy the phrase of Radu Stoenescu of the Riposte Laique and ref…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 16, 2010 to The 9/11 Victory Mosque

14 Sep 23, 2010
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"Alain Wagner called them 'Business Centres', I think, because they are huge building…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 15, 2010 to The 9/11 Victory Mosque

14 Sep 23, 2010
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"Well if you are talking to me, what do you mean by my website - do you mean Facebo…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 11, 2010 to You can kill and insult the cops, but they just don't get it.

10 Aug 13, 2010
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"Precisely. I'm feeling more drawn to the issue of mistreatment of our armed forces t…"

Alan Lake replied Aug 8, 2010 to US army suicide rate exceeds national average

3 Aug 8, 2010
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"Unbelievable. Or they could build the mosque on the condition that every bit of tea…"

Alan Lake replied May 8, 2010 to The US has been defending itself against Islam for 200 years

11 Apr 22, 2015
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"Al Queda representative: "and Osama bin Laden is working hard in his cave in ... e…"

Alan Lake replied Mar 20, 2010 to 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

6 Apr 11, 2010
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"Gosh, a big piece of work. I hope the Pentagon and British Forces take the trouble t…"

Alan Lake replied Feb 3, 2010 to Fitzgerald: Arabia Petraea, Or General Petraeus' Middle East (Part I)

8 Feb 3, 2010
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"Very good video, altho I would quibble with some of the points. (1) Stalin was a so…"

Alan Lake replied Jan 30, 2010 to FULL SCALE REBELLION AHEAD

6 Feb 4, 2010
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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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