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It takes a nation to protect the nation

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Escaping the Technofascists: alternatives to Facebook, Youtube and Twitter

When joining any new site, please use a password different to your email password and 4F password, as a new site may be used as a honey tra…

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"Homeland", Islam and the Chasm of Madness

I'm putting this in the US Room because its a line of thought that first came to me from the American 'Homeland' series - but its a topic t…

Started by Alan Lake

40 Jan 19, 2020
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Bring Back Segregation in Entertainment and Sport!

This isn't about the Islamic threat to democracy, but about the general threat to democracy from current SJW trends. You will have noticed…

Started by Alan Lake

12 Feb 25, 2018
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The Confederate Flag ... and where we go from here

America: One Nation, Indivisible The Confederate battle flag is far from the only worrisome symbol in America today. by Victor Davis Hanso…

Started by Alan Lake

5 Jul 12, 2015
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Alcoholism, Machines and Fighting Styles

This discussion is a follow on from comments made on Representative Gohmert's speech, here:

Started by Alan Lake

7 Nov 8, 2011
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Tora! Tora! Tora! and Bin Laden's Twin Towers

I recently watched the latest Pearl Harbour movie.  Well actually, I didn't watch all of it, it was too superficial and full of emotional p…

Started by Alan Lake

3 Oct 29, 2011
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Free speech and sedition

This is from Danny Jeffrey's latest article.       To the left, beneath that traitor's nude defecating body lies the American Flag. In the…

Started by Alan Lake

2 Oct 14, 2011
Reply by Alan Lake

USA: Down and Out - on C4 Unreported World

Watch this program on the terrible fallout in the US from the economic downturn and consequent repossessions, and you'll wonder what on ear…

Started by Alan Lake

0 Jun 30, 2011

Indoctrination and Censorship in US Universities

This will make you angry, but its worth watching all 10 videos (total time 100 mins).

Started by Alan Lake

2 Apr 27, 2011
Reply by Alan Lake

CAIR and its allies are fighting the Tennessee anti-terrorism bill


Started by Alan Lake

0 Mar 5, 2011


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Mission Overview

Most Western societies are based on Secular Democracy, which itself is based on the concept that the open marketplace of ideas leads to the optimum government. Whilst that model has been very successful, it has defects. The 4 Freedoms address 4 of the principal vulnerabilities, and gives corrections to them. 

At the moment, one of the main actors exploiting these defects, is Islam, so this site pays particular attention to that threat.

Islam, operating at the micro and macro levels, is unstoppable by individuals, hence: "It takes a nation to protect the nation". There is not enough time to fight all its attacks, nor to read them nor even to record them. So the members of 4F try to curate a representative subset of these events.

We need to capture this information before it is removed.  The site already contains sufficient information to cover most issues, but our members add further updates when possible.

We hope that free nations will wake up to stop the threat, and force the separation of (Islamic) Church and State. This will also allow moderate Muslims to escape from their totalitarian political system.

The 4 Freedoms

These 4 freedoms are designed to close 4 vulnerabilities in Secular Democracy, by making them SP or Self-Protecting (see Hobbes's first law of nature). But Democracy also requires - in addition to the standard divisions of Executive, Legislature & Judiciary - a fourth body, Protector of the Open Society (POS), to monitor all its vulnerabilities (see also Popper). 
1. SP Freedom of Speech
Any speech is allowed - except that advocating the end of these freedoms
2. SP Freedom of Election
Any party is allowed - except one advocating the end of these freedoms
3. SP Freedom from Voter Importation
Immigration is allowed - except where that changes the political demography (this is electoral fraud)
4. SP Freedom from Debt
The Central Bank is allowed to create debt - except where that debt burden can pass across a generation (25 years).

An additional Freedom from Religion is deducible if the law is applied equally to everyone:

  • Religious and cultural activities are exempt from legal oversight except where they intrude into the public sphere (Res Publica)"

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